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- Re: Vanagon a/cHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyTue, 24 May 2011 21:26:23 -0500...R134a = greenhouse gas; R12 = CFC. > > If you really care about the environment, we'd all appreciate it if you would turn off your computer...
- Re: Cost of Freon R12Historical mailing list - Kim BrennanWed, 14 May 2003 14:26:11 -0400...Duracool or Freeze 12 having cooling properties similar to the original R12 used in your Vanagon, and hence I feel are better choices. However...
- Re: A/C tools questionHistorical mailing list - Tom HargraveFri, 10 May 2013 15:19:08 -0500No responsible shop will top-off a R12 system that measures no pressure on the gauges and no responsible shop will top-off a...
- Re: ACHistorical mailing list - Fred YoungerTue, 2 Jun 1998 08:00:19 -0500...My 91 uses R12 do I have to replace it with R12 > 2. If the above is true how much should the system need...
- Re: Cost of Freon R12Historical mailing list - Jeffrey SchwaiaTue, 13 May 2003 22:04:25 -0700...I agree about R12 cooling better, I also think it starts cooling much quicker than R134. Cheers, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List...
- Re: AC system servicingHistorical mailing list - Keith OvregaardSun, 2 Jul 2006 10:04:21 -0700...If not, then Freeze12 - most comparable to R12. It is > getting a new compressor(R12 type) and a new receiver/dryer. Besides > seals, what...
- Re: R12 vs. R134Historical mailing list - Jim CainTue, 30 May 2000 23:45:33 -0400...How does that relate to the R12 vs R134 debate. Is Freeze 12 similar as R12? Anyway, at the time the mechanic said that...
- Re: A/C tune-up timeHistorical mailing list - Geo HahnSun, 14 Mar 2004 18:19:24 -0700Jaime Forero wrote: >My 91 has an R12 system. Has anyone done a modification to 134A?? > I have used a product called Freeze12 in...
- Re: A/C tools questionHistorical mailing list - Tom HargraveThu, 9 May 2013 21:24:29 -0500When R12 was more common I used to borrow a friend's setup & give him the reclaimed R12 for the trouble. These days I...
- Re: Cost of Freon R12/ Freeze 12Historical mailing list - Mark DormTue, 20 May 2003 00:25:13 -0700...Cost of Freon R12 > > > > I'm getting ready to have the AC serviced on my 88 GL. What are the > > differences between R12, Freeze...
- R12 to R134a retrofitHistorical mailing list - Todd LastWed, 23 Jun 1999 11:56:03 -0700For those interested, on the Sanden website, there is an adobe acrobat file with the recommended procedures to do an r12 to r134 conversion...
- Re: A/C Replacement for R12???Historical mailing list - Joseph J. LiasseTue, 26 May 1998 02:13:11 -0400...A/C Replacement for R12??? >Hi gang, >Interested to note the mention of a replacement for R12. Can you supply a >name? Cost? >Thanks...
- all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)Historical mailing list - honemastertTue, 24 May 2005 15:53:57 -0700...Keep the system lubricated, keep that precious and 'expensive' R12 in the system. My plans seemed to be working, until we hit record highs...
- Re: Cost of Freon R12Historical mailing list - Mike CollumTue, 13 May 2003 23:38:20 -0400> My mechanic charged me $53/lb of Freon R12, a total of $187 for 3.5 lb. I do > not remember ever paying so...
- Behr A/C capacities ??Historical mailing list - No Name AvailableMon, 21 Jul 2003 23:12:21 EDT...I am looking for the original capacities for R12 as i am going to be changing it over to R134. the system has leaked...
- Re: My R134a experienceHistorical mailing list - Robert FisherThu, 3 Aug 2006 12:54:32 -0700...I have decided to stick with the R12, >> or at least one of the R12 look-alikes - Duracool or some other. To use >> a...
- Re: A/C resuscitation - where to start?Historical mailing list - Warren ChapmanWed, 18 Jul 2007 16:19:11 -0400...Now I can get R12 for $11 a can. > > > >http://www.epatest.com/ > > > >http://store.lenzdist.com/ What size can? How many cans to...
- A/C CompressorHistorical mailing list - Georgios A. Stylianides, PhDMon, 7 Jun 2004 14:49:30 -0400...00027702971 (on main label) Q (on cylinder head, indicating cylinder head type) A1A68UM (on clutch) It looks like our choices may be SD510 (R12...
- Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?Historical mailing list - Dennis HaynesWed, 28 Jun 2006 11:50:26 -0400...R12 or R134 - How to distinguish? > > > > > Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the > > > low/high side > > > fittings...
- Re: R12 Evacuation (the Earth friendly way)Historical mailing list - T BerkFri, 10 Aug 2001 15:20:56 -0700...I need to find a cheap scavenger pump and bottle to store the R12 in, then I can (re)use it in my daily...
- R12 Evacuation (the Earth friendly way)Historical mailing list - phil stanhopeFri, 10 Aug 2001 07:50:35 -0700...Is there something I can buy/rent cheaply that will remove the R12 in an earth friendly way? phil 84' westy "Millenium Falcon" 84...
- Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?Historical mailing list - Dennis HaynesWed, 28 Jun 2006 11:32:59 -0400...R12 or R134 - How to distinguish? > Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the > low/high side > fittings...
- Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)Historical mailing list - Terry BuchananThu, 20 Aug 1998 11:43:40 -0700...A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point) >After inventing nylon, etc. Dupont managed to get that nasty old plant Hemp plant outlawed. I...
- Re: A/C -R12--R134aHistorical mailing list - Timothy O. CrooksMon, 17 Aug 1998 13:42:22 -0400...134a is a LOT cheaper than r12 and can be purchased OTC. Good luck, -Tim 90 GL YauMan Chan wrote: > Hello everyone, > > It's...
- Re: AC convertHistorical mailing list - robert shawn fellerSun, 16 Apr 2006 22:53:33 -0400You can legally use Duracool in R12 setups only after R134a conversion. Why? Because the EPA knows that "shops" don't do Duracool conversions...
- Re: Adding freonHistorical mailing list - Jim FelderSun, 4 Apr 2010 10:15:55 -0500When I have R12 removed (usually there is nothing but air in there) the shop I get my parts from has a freon collection...
- Re: A/C question: Ester Oil and R-12 do they mix?Historical mailing list - Larry AlofsFri, 27 Aug 2004 20:30:40 -0500kdlewis_wasting_time@access4less.net wrote: > Robert, > Ester oil is compatible with R12 but not compatible with > mineral oil which is general associated with...
- Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)Historical mailing list - Tom MillerTue, 24 May 2005 21:59:49 -0400...I bought 3 kits to cover each of my pre 94 cars with R12 systems. They come with all the fittings you need to...
- Re: Cost of Freon R12Historical mailing list - Mark DormTue, 20 May 2003 00:28:04 -0700...Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM> > >R12 is a "banned" substance now. I.E. you are supposed to stop using it >(older cars using it...
- Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)Historical mailing list - t billTue, 18 Aug 1998 22:48:45 -0700> (who is only sad I didn't buy 2 20lb canisters of R12 10 years ago instead > of one 10 lb canister, then I...
- Re: A/C tools questionHistorical mailing list - Todd LastSat, 11 May 2013 01:01:10 +0000I've noticed there are some that will do R134 and R12, but they seem to be two units placed together - separate hoses, tanks...
- Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning ConversionHistorical mailing list - Stan WilderWed, 16 Jun 2004 21:12:34 -0500...R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:58:03 -0500, Stan Wilder wrote > > I never said r134a was as...
- Some A/C UpgradesHistorical mailing list - Robert LilleyFri, 6 Aug 2004 15:35:07 -0700When converting to R134 from R12I found out that there is a parallel flow condenser http://store.ackits.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Parallel that...
- Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)Historical mailing list - jimtWed, 25 May 2005 12:34:27 -0600...all my R12 is gone..? (bummer) >> >> >>> A properly working AC system in a late model (86 and later) Vanagon (or >>> Westy) will cool you...
- Re: R12 vs. R134Historical mailing list - Michael A. RadtkeTue, 30 May 2000 07:44:11 -0700...even though I am licensed to buy R12, instead of spending $20-$40 a year for R12, last year I elected to convert using...
- Re: I lost my cool!!Historical mailing list - Dennis HaynesMon, 9 Jul 2012 00:20:21 -0400...The > > > fittings for R134a and R12 are different of course. If your > > > vehicle has not been converted, it is R12. > > Good catch. R134a systems...
- Re: Vanagon a/cHistorical mailing list - Jeff SchwaiaTue, 24 May 2011 19:39:30 -0700...CDC issue? No long diatribe explaining the benefits of greenhouse gases over CDCs? Please explain to us why R134a is so superior to R12...
- Re: R134 conversion.Historical mailing list - Darrell BoehlerMon, 31 May 1999 10:08:16 -0500...There is even lubricant that is compatible with both r12 and r134. Local napa store has compressor seal kits and O rings. Sams discount...
- Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning ConversionHistorical mailing list - Doug in CalifWed, 16 Jun 2004 19:00:59 -0700...R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:58:03 -0500, Stan Wilder wrote > > I never said r134a was as...
- Re: A/C tools questionHistorical mailing list - JRodgersFri, 10 May 2013 13:30:06 -0500I was told by a couple of shops that the reason they didn't want to fool with R12 in any way was because...
- Re: Adding freonHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelySun, 4 Apr 2010 10:01:30 -0500---- John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET> wrote: > From memory (and that's pretty shakey these days - more senior moments > than I like to admit) - R12...
- Re: A/C tools questionHistorical mailing list - Stephen GrisantiFri, 10 May 2013 08:17:10 -0700...Just remember a "empty" R12 system is still full of R12, it's just R12 at atmospheric pressure of ~14.6 PSI. And it...
- A/C -R12--R134aHistorical mailing list - YauMan ChanMon, 17 Aug 1998 08:48:28 -0800...But anyway, since this old thing had R12 and being a Berserkelan, I am very much guilt ridden for having released all my R12...
- AW: A/C -R12--R134a, VW tech bulletin, there's one.Historical mailing list - Conrad SchimkeWed, 19 Aug 1998 10:16:10 +0200In a message dated 98-08-18 20:20:20 EDT, jdpierce@kpmg.com writes: << What is the difference in cooling ability between R12...
- Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point) -ReplyHistorical mailing list - YauMan ChanThu, 20 Aug 1998 08:31:43 -0800...and other industrialize nations was to ban the MANUFACTURING, not the use of R12. The result is that when the stock pile is gone...
- Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?Historical mailing list - David BohannanWed, 28 Jun 2006 11:44:55 -0400...R12 or R134 - How to distinguish? > > > Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the > > low/high side > > fittings...
- Re: AC QuestionHistorical mailing list - Karl WolzTue, 11 Jun 2013 14:33:35 -0700...R134a doesn't work nearly as well as R12 in an unmodified R12 system. Mods can run into some serious change. R134a will work...
- Re: A/C resuscitation - where to start?Historical mailing list - Todd LastWed, 27 Jun 2007 19:06:30 +0000...Basically a hose within a hose that limits the probability that smaller R134a or even R12 molecules will slowly escape through the hose wall...
- Re: A/C -R12--R134aHistorical mailing list - Victor MontgomeryTue, 18 Aug 1998 18:12:46 EDT...the California earthquake "duck & >cover" drills came in handy. > >But anyway, since this old thing had R12 and being a >Berserkelan, I am very...
- Re: A/C question: Ester Oil and R-12 do they mix?Historical mailing list - Stan WilderFri, 27 Aug 2004 16:19:08 -0500...Ester Oil and R-12 do they mix? > Robert, > Ester oil is compatible with R12 but not compatible with > mineral oil which is general...
- R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?Historical mailing list - James VWed, 28 Jun 2006 08:12:42 -0700Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the low/high side fittings? When I purchased my 88 Westy...
- Re: AC tinkeringHistorical mailing list - Kim BrennanTue, 30 May 2006 16:36:40 -0400...Either get your system recharged with R12, or get your system converted. If you aren't going to stay with R12, you should get...
- Re: How to convert to 134?Historical mailing list - Ken WilfordTue, 6 May 2008 14:56:23 -0400The older A/C systems were marginal at best when run on R12. I usually use Freeze-12 on these systems to maximize performance...
- Re: R12 or R134?Historical mailing list - Roberto MunozTue, 29 Jul 2003 21:06:04 -0400...COM> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: R12 or R134? > > ----------------------- Clip ---------------------- > > Time to take a poll ................. > > How many 18 year...
- AC: R134, R12, Just fixed, broke alreadyHistorical mailing list - Mark CThu, 20 Jul 2006 16:08:10 -0700...also they (D&S) still deal with r12.. said it would have been better to stay with r12 for a vanagon, esp for arizona...
- Re: Cost of Freon R12Historical mailing list - Tonya PopeWed, 14 May 2003 19:52:35 -0500Man am I glad my dad had the foresight to buy a case of R12 days before it became illegal! He gave it to...
- RE: Freon Conversions / SubstitutesHistorical mailing list - Tom BrunsonTue, 8 Jul 97 19:18:19 UT...It seems to cool as well as R12, and the compressor cycling and load don't seem to be affected. There's also no...
- Re: Cost of Freon R12Historical mailing list - Jeffrey SchwaiaWed, 14 May 2003 19:25:10 -0700...Cost of Freon R12 Man am I glad my dad had the foresight to buy a case of R12 days before it became illegal...
- AC Conversion: R12 to R134AHistorical mailing list - Fitz-Randolph, DouglasMon, 23 Jul 2001 16:10:28 -0400...Does anyone know of a good article on a website or a good list posting that covers R12 -> R134A AC refrigerant conversion? I've...
- Re: R12 or R134?Historical mailing list - developtrustTue, 29 Jul 2003 18:48:14 -0700...I'm wiling to pay extra for colder air. > Yes ...cost is the same R12 = $59.00 per pound (to be phase out in...