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  • Re: Vanagon a/c
    Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
    Tue, 24 May 2011 21:26:23 -0500
    ...R134a = greenhouse gas; R12 = CFC. > > If you really care about the environment, we'd all appreciate it if you would turn off your computer...
  • Re: Cost of Freon R12
    Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
    Wed, 14 May 2003 14:26:11 -0400
    ...Duracool or Freeze 12 having cooling properties similar to the original R12 used in your Vanagon, and hence I feel are better choices. However...
  • Re: A/C tools question
    Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
    Fri, 10 May 2013 15:19:08 -0500
    No responsible shop will top-off a R12 system that measures no pressure on the gauges and no responsible shop will top-off a...
  • Re: AC
    Historical mailing list - Fred Younger
    Tue, 2 Jun 1998 08:00:19 -0500
    ...My 91 uses R12 do I have to replace it with R12 > 2. If the above is true how much should the system need...
  • Re: Cost of Freon R12
    Historical mailing list - Jeffrey Schwaia
    Tue, 13 May 2003 22:04:25 -0700
    ...I agree about R12 cooling better, I also think it starts cooling much quicker than R134. Cheers, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List...
  • Re: AC system servicing
    Historical mailing list - Keith Ovregaard
    Sun, 2 Jul 2006 10:04:21 -0700
    ...If not, then Freeze12 - most comparable to R12. It is > getting a new compressor(R12 type) and a new receiver/dryer. Besides > seals, what...
  • Re: R12 vs. R134
    Historical mailing list - Jim Cain
    Tue, 30 May 2000 23:45:33 -0400
    ...How does that relate to the R12 vs R134 debate. Is Freeze 12 similar as R12? Anyway, at the time the mechanic said that...
  • Re: A/C tune-up time
    Historical mailing list - Geo Hahn
    Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:19:24 -0700
    Jaime Forero wrote: >My 91 has an R12 system. Has anyone done a modification to 134A?? > I have used a product called Freeze12 in...
  • Re: A/C tools question
    Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
    Thu, 9 May 2013 21:24:29 -0500
    When R12 was more common I used to borrow a friend's setup & give him the reclaimed R12 for the trouble. These days I...
  • Re: Cost of Freon R12/ Freeze 12
    Historical mailing list - Mark Dorm
    Tue, 20 May 2003 00:25:13 -0700
    ...Cost of Freon R12 > > > > I'm getting ready to have the AC serviced on my 88 GL. What are the > > differences between R12, Freeze...
  • R12 to R134a retrofit
    Historical mailing list - Todd Last
    Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:56:03 -0700
    For those interested, on the Sanden website, there is an adobe acrobat file with the recommended procedures to do an r12 to r134 conversion...
  • Re: A/C Replacement for R12???
    Historical mailing list - Joseph J. Liasse
    Tue, 26 May 1998 02:13:11 -0400
    ...A/C Replacement for R12??? >Hi gang, >Interested to note the mention of a replacement for R12. Can you supply a >name? Cost? >Thanks...
  • all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
    Historical mailing list - honemastert
    Tue, 24 May 2005 15:53:57 -0700
    ...Keep the system lubricated, keep that precious and 'expensive' R12 in the system. My plans seemed to be working, until we hit record highs...
  • Re: Cost of Freon R12
    Historical mailing list - Mike Collum
    Tue, 13 May 2003 23:38:20 -0400
    > My mechanic charged me $53/lb of Freon R12, a total of $187 for 3.5 lb. I do > not remember ever paying so...
  • Behr A/C capacities ??
    Historical mailing list - No Name Available
    Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:12:21 EDT
    ...I am looking for the original capacities for R12 as i am going to be changing it over to R134. the system has leaked...
  • Re: My R134a experience
    Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
    Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:54:32 -0700
    ...I have decided to stick with the R12, >> or at least one of the R12 look-alikes - Duracool or some other. To use >> a...
  • Re: A/C resuscitation - where to start?
    Historical mailing list - Warren Chapman
    Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:19:11 -0400
    ...Now I can get R12 for $11 a can. > > > >http://www.epatest.com/ > > > >http://store.lenzdist.com/ What size can? How many cans to...
  • A/C Compressor
    Historical mailing list - Georgios A. Stylianides, PhD
    Mon, 7 Jun 2004 14:49:30 -0400
    ...00027702971 (on main label) Q (on cylinder head, indicating cylinder head type) A1A68UM (on clutch) It looks like our choices may be SD510 (R12...
  • Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?
    Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
    Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:50:26 -0400
    ...R12 or R134 - How to distinguish? > > > > > Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the > > > low/high side > > > fittings...
  • Re: R12 Evacuation (the Earth friendly way)
    Historical mailing list - T Berk
    Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:20:56 -0700
    ...I need to find a cheap scavenger pump and bottle to store the R12 in, then I can (re)use it in my daily...
  • R12 Evacuation (the Earth friendly way)
    Historical mailing list - phil stanhope
    Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:50:35 -0700
    ...Is there something I can buy/rent cheaply that will remove the R12 in an earth friendly way? phil 84' westy "Millenium Falcon" 84...
  • Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?
    Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
    Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:32:59 -0400
    ...R12 or R134 - How to distinguish? > Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the > low/high side > fittings...
  • Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)
    Historical mailing list - Terry Buchanan
    Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:43:40 -0700
    ...A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point) >After inventing nylon, etc. Dupont managed to get that nasty old plant Hemp plant outlawed. I...
  • Re: A/C -R12--R134a
    Historical mailing list - Timothy O. Crooks
    Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:42:22 -0400
    ...134a is a LOT cheaper than r12 and can be purchased OTC. Good luck, -Tim 90 GL YauMan Chan wrote: > Hello everyone, > > It's...
  • Re: AC convert
    Historical mailing list - robert shawn feller
    Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:53:33 -0400
    You can legally use Duracool in R12 setups only after R134a conversion. Why? Because the EPA knows that "shops" don't do Duracool conversions...
  • Re: Adding freon
    Historical mailing list - Jim Felder
    Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:15:55 -0500
    When I have R12 removed (usually there is nothing but air in there) the shop I get my parts from has a freon collection...
  • Re: A/C question: Ester Oil and R-12 do they mix?
    Historical mailing list - Larry Alofs
    Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:30:40 -0500
    kdlewis_wasting_time@access4less.net wrote: > Robert, > Ester oil is compatible with R12 but not compatible with > mineral oil which is general associated with...
  • Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
    Historical mailing list - Tom Miller
    Tue, 24 May 2005 21:59:49 -0400
    ...I bought 3 kits to cover each of my pre 94 cars with R12 systems. They come with all the fittings you need to...
  • Re: Cost of Freon R12
    Historical mailing list - Mark Dorm
    Tue, 20 May 2003 00:28:04 -0700
    ...Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM> > >R12 is a "banned" substance now. I.E. you are supposed to stop using it >(older cars using it...
  • Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)
    Historical mailing list - t bill
    Tue, 18 Aug 1998 22:48:45 -0700
    > (who is only sad I didn't buy 2 20lb canisters of R12 10 years ago instead > of one 10 lb canister, then I...
  • Re: A/C tools question
    Historical mailing list - Todd Last
    Sat, 11 May 2013 01:01:10 +0000
    I've noticed there are some that will do R134 and R12, but they seem to be two units placed together - separate hoses, tanks...
  • Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
    Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
    Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:12:34 -0500
    ...R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:58:03 -0500, Stan Wilder wrote > > I never said r134a was as...
  • Some A/C Upgrades
    Historical mailing list - Robert Lilley
    Fri, 6 Aug 2004 15:35:07 -0700
    When converting to R134 from R12I found out that there is a parallel flow condenser http://store.ackits.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Parallel that...
  • Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
    Historical mailing list - jimt
    Wed, 25 May 2005 12:34:27 -0600
    ...all my R12 is gone..? (bummer) >> >> >>> A properly working AC system in a late model (86 and later) Vanagon (or >>> Westy) will cool you...
  • Re: R12 vs. R134
    Historical mailing list - Michael A. Radtke
    Tue, 30 May 2000 07:44:11 -0700
    ...even though I am licensed to buy R12, instead of spending $20-$40 a year for R12, last year I elected to convert using...
  • Re: I lost my cool!!
    Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
    Mon, 9 Jul 2012 00:20:21 -0400
    ...The > > > fittings for R134a and R12 are different of course. If your > > > vehicle has not been converted, it is R12. > > Good catch. R134a systems...
  • Re: Vanagon a/c
    Historical mailing list - Jeff Schwaia
    Tue, 24 May 2011 19:39:30 -0700
    ...CDC issue? No long diatribe explaining the benefits of greenhouse gases over CDCs? Please explain to us why R134a is so superior to R12...
  • Re: R134 conversion.
    Historical mailing list - Darrell Boehler
    Mon, 31 May 1999 10:08:16 -0500
    ...There is even lubricant that is compatible with both r12 and r134. Local napa store has compressor seal kits and O rings. Sams discount...
  • Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
    Historical mailing list - Doug in Calif
    Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:00:59 -0700
    ...R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:58:03 -0500, Stan Wilder wrote > > I never said r134a was as...
  • Re: A/C tools question
    Historical mailing list - JRodgers
    Fri, 10 May 2013 13:30:06 -0500
    I was told by a couple of shops that the reason they didn't want to fool with R12 in any way was because...
  • Re: Adding freon
    Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
    Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:01:30 -0500
    ---- John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET> wrote: > From memory (and that's pretty shakey these days - more senior moments > than I like to admit) - R12...
  • Re: A/C tools question
    Historical mailing list - Stephen Grisanti
    Fri, 10 May 2013 08:17:10 -0700
    ...Just remember a "empty" R12 system is still full of R12, it's just R12 at atmospheric pressure of ~14.6 PSI. And it...
  • A/C -R12--R134a
    Historical mailing list - YauMan Chan
    Mon, 17 Aug 1998 08:48:28 -0800
    ...But anyway, since this old thing had R12 and being a Berserkelan, I am very much guilt ridden for having released all my R12...
  • AW: A/C -R12--R134a, VW tech bulletin, there's one.
    Historical mailing list - Conrad Schimke
    Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:16:10 +0200
    In a message dated 98-08-18 20:20:20 EDT, jdpierce@kpmg.com writes: << What is the difference in cooling ability between R12...
  • Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point) -Reply
    Historical mailing list - YauMan Chan
    Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:31:43 -0800
    ...and other industrialize nations was to ban the MANUFACTURING, not the use of R12. The result is that when the stock pile is gone...
  • Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?
    Historical mailing list - David Bohannan
    Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:44:55 -0400
    ...R12 or R134 - How to distinguish? > > > Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the > > low/high side > > fittings...
  • Re: AC Question
    Historical mailing list - Karl Wolz
    Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:33:35 -0700
    ...R134a doesn't work nearly as well as R12 in an unmodified R12 system. Mods can run into some serious change. R134a will work...
  • Re: A/C resuscitation - where to start?
    Historical mailing list - Todd Last
    Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:06:30 +0000
    ...Basically a hose within a hose that limits the probability that smaller R134a or even R12 molecules will slowly escape through the hose wall...
  • Re: A/C -R12--R134a
    Historical mailing list - Victor Montgomery
    Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:12:46 EDT
    ...the California earthquake "duck & >cover" drills came in handy. > >But anyway, since this old thing had R12 and being a >Berserkelan, I am very...
  • Re: A/C question: Ester Oil and R-12 do they mix?
    Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
    Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:19:08 -0500
    ...Ester Oil and R-12 do they mix? > Robert, > Ester oil is compatible with R12 but not compatible with > mineral oil which is general...
  • R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?
    Historical mailing list - James V
    Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:12:42 -0700
    Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the low/high side fittings? When I purchased my 88 Westy...
  • Re: AC tinkering
    Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
    Tue, 30 May 2006 16:36:40 -0400
    ...Either get your system recharged with R12, or get your system converted. If you aren't going to stay with R12, you should get...
  • Re: How to convert to 134?
    Historical mailing list - Ken Wilford
    Tue, 6 May 2008 14:56:23 -0400
    The older A/C systems were marginal at best when run on R12. I usually use Freeze-12 on these systems to maximize performance...
  • Re: R12 or R134?
    Historical mailing list - Roberto Munoz
    Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:06:04 -0400
    ...COM> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: R12 or R134? > > ----------------------- Clip ---------------------- > > Time to take a poll ................. > > How many 18 year...
  • AC: R134, R12, Just fixed, broke already
    Historical mailing list - Mark C
    Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:08:10 -0700
    ...also they (D&S) still deal with r12.. said it would have been better to stay with r12 for a vanagon, esp for arizona...
  • Re: Cost of Freon R12
    Historical mailing list - Tonya Pope
    Wed, 14 May 2003 19:52:35 -0500
    Man am I glad my dad had the foresight to buy a case of R12 days before it became illegal! He gave it to...
  • RE: Freon Conversions / Substitutes
    Historical mailing list - Tom Brunson
    Tue, 8 Jul 97 19:18:19 UT
    ...It seems to cool as well as R12, and the compressor cycling and load don't seem to be affected. There's also no...
  • Re: Cost of Freon R12
    Historical mailing list - Jeffrey Schwaia
    Wed, 14 May 2003 19:25:10 -0700
    ...Cost of Freon R12 Man am I glad my dad had the foresight to buy a case of R12 days before it became illegal...
  • AC Conversion: R12 to R134A
    Historical mailing list - Fitz-Randolph, Douglas
    Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:10:28 -0400
    ...Does anyone know of a good article on a website or a good list posting that covers R12 -> R134A AC refrigerant conversion? I've...
  • Re: R12 or R134?
    Historical mailing list - developtrust
    Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:48:14 -0700
    ...I'm wiling to pay extra for colder air. > Yes ...cost is the same R12 = $59.00 per pound (to be phase out in...