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- Re: Coolant??Historical mailing list - Joel WalkerTue, 27 Jun 95 12:05:36 CDT...another possibility is this Sierra stuff, which is propylene glycol, NOT the normal ethylene glycol ... the Sierra coolant is phosphate-free (i think) and...
- Was Re: Orange CoolantHistorical mailing list - Brian DossWed, 26 May 1999 16:38:48 EDT...They said it would mix with ANY ethylene glycol based fluid. Now, I know I'm opening myself up for flaming here - but that...
- Re: About coolantHistorical mailing list - Rocket J SquirrelSun, 13 Dec 2009 07:49:21 -0800...Slower quench = >> slower heat transfer. >> >> Numbers here: >> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ethylene-glycol-d_146.html >> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/overall-heat-transfer-coefficients...
- Re: Antifreeze WAS: stainless steel coolant pipesHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyFri, 7 May 2010 08:48:02 -0500...Ethylene glycol is degraded fairly rapidly, so that most jurisdictions and EPA allow its disposal in the sanitary sewage system, but not of course...
- Re: Windshield de-icer in a can?Historical mailing list - Rocket J SquirrelThu, 7 Jan 2010 10:09:35 -0800...Usually an alcohol, and sometimes with propylene or ethylene glycol. Not sure what the effect of a glycol would be if it crept into...
- Re: Your Van might just need a flush....was Van runs hot in traffic jamsHistorical mailing list - Alistair BellWed, 2 Apr 2003 08:13:29 -0800...John Rodgers > 88 GL Driver > Theoretically and actually, both polypropylene glycol and ethylene glycol are biodegradable. Some carbon bonds there to use for energy...
- Re: Some potentially stupid questionsHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyThu, 4 Nov 2010 12:50:58 -0500...Fact is, the environmental microbiology course I took, we sampled radiators at junkyards, and cultured the samples in the lab with ethylene glycol as...
- Antifreeze ExperimentHistorical mailing list - Brian DossWed, 22 Nov 2000 15:41:58 EST...Both solutions are ethylene glycol based, so there must be differences in the other additives. I just thought someone else might find this interesting...
- Re: Sierra CoolantHistorical mailing list - Larry AlofsSun, 29 Sep 2002 10:47:47 -0500...Differences in the coefficient of thermal expansion between propylene glycol and ethylene glycol probably would not be noticeable. Larry A. Jfp w/3 WBXs...
- propylene glycol phosphate free coolantHistorical mailing list - tom ringSun, 24 Aug 2003 19:47:48 -0600...is ethylene glycol- 0� F 3 x E.G. -20� F 6 x E.G. -40� F 9 x E.G. Of course, your...
- AW: moronsHistorical mailing list - Robert KeezerThu, 22 Aug 2002 12:31:56 -0700...I'm just going by the WBX coolant tank warning label, to only use ethylene glycol based coolants. As long as it says ethylene...
- Re: Coolant TempsHistorical mailing list - Donald BaxterTue, 10 Apr 2001 09:52:32 -0500...glycol .... > > what i've heard (and read on the backs of the containers) is that p. > > glycol is NOT as efficient as the ethylene...
- Re: FW: CoolantHistorical mailing list - Scott Daniel - TurbovansMon, 10 Dec 2012 14:35:25 -0800...says WARNING ! 'contains ethylene glycol' .. says do not drink, do not breath mist or vapors. Avoid prolonged skin contact. Avoidskin and eye contact. In...
- Re: was To buy or not to buy: �87 Westy NOW: Green Coolant?Historical mailing list - Ben TSat, 1 Jun 2002 00:34:28 -0400...biannual basis--- And in a poll, the finding were that where ethylene glycol wasoriginlly used, the phosphate free stuff caused problems in the cooling...
- Re: coolant is a poisonHistorical mailing list - Matthew PollardWed, 2 Apr 2003 14:12:31 -0800...Ethylene/propolyene glycol is very easily bioremediated... hey, i got it, call your local water treatment plant and see what they say. Mine told...
- Re: Antifreeze AgainHistorical mailing list - Eric ZenoSat, 22 May 2004 12:47:00 -0400...They had 3 > Prestone antifreezes to choose from: > > The regular green stuff. > > A low tox [not ethylene glycol based] antifreeze. > > Orange extended life antifreeze...
- Re: green coolantHistorical mailing list - Bulley-Hewlett & AssociatesThu, 5 Nov 1998 14:19:03 -0500...Plus all of the good stuff in the ethylene glycol is now broken down into the useless constituent parts of green coolant: Lime Jello...
- coolant system flush ideas?Historical mailing listThu, 20 Feb 1997 15:15:38 -0800...I want to use a propylene glycol based antifreeze instead of the ethylene glycol based stuff (or did I just reverse that - I have...
- Re: Coolant recommendationsHistorical mailing list - Dennis HaynesFri, 5 Oct 2007 17:40:29 -0400Note that Sierra is propylene, not ethylene glycol based. Do not mix. Also, temperature transfer characteristics are not as good. Whatever coolant you use...
- Re: CoolantHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelySun, 9 Dec 2012 14:42:28 -0600Zerex has a phosphate free ethylene glycol coolant, fluorescent yellow in color, as I recall. I got mine at NAPA last time. Of course...
- Re: My Mechanic's Odd ReactionHistorical mailing list - Jeffrey SchwaiaThu, 16 Oct 2003 16:00:22 -0700...Is it ethylene glycol??? Is it non-phosphate?? If yes to both, it meets spec. If not, it doesn't. All the VW blue...
- Re: Thermostat install QuestionHistorical mailing list - Standley, CraigThu, 2 Aug 2001 15:27:29 -0800Does the coolant actually raise the boiling point though? I wouldn't think that it would, if anything it seems like ethylene glycol would...
- VW radiator capsHistorical mailing list - Rocko FlamefartThu, 9 Jan 97 09:22:08 -0600...me thinks various concoctions of "Radiator Powders" gum up the workings of the cap :( lastly, you all know that ethylene glycol is extremely toxic...
- Re: Coolant QuestionHistorical mailing list - Mark DormTue, 5 Sep 2000 19:50:45 PDT...Both are best for >Vanagons anyway, ethylene glycol based, no phosphates, and utilize a >totally new anticorrosion chemistry that doesn't break down to...
- Re: VW antifreeze ?Historical mailing list - Robert KeezerSun, 23 Dec 2001 18:06:05 -0800...formula is ethylene glycol based which doesn't contain phosphates, silicates, bromides or amines. <DIV></DIV>> The green propylene glycol based antifreeze Sierra...
- Re: Windshield de-icer in a can?Historical mailing list - Dave McneelyThu, 7 Jan 2010 15:28:46 -0500...an alcohol, and sometimes with propylene or ethylene glycol. > Not > sure what the effect of a glycol would be if it crept into and...
- Cleaning Oily Gunge out of Cooling SystemHistorical mailing list - Tabe JohnsonSun, 2 May 2010 21:35:09 -0700...Clean 1 gill (US) Fluorescene 1 tablet Ethylene glycol 1 quart Broccoli juice 3 quarts Hope this cures all your ills and aches! (P...
- Re: My Mechanic's Odd ReactionHistorical mailing list - tom ringFri, 17 Oct 2003 09:46:55 -0600...Additionally, SIERRA Antifreeze meets all the corrosion performance requirements of ASTM D 3306 and ASTM D 4985 (the primary specifications for premium ethylene glycol...
- Re: Double T TroubleHistorical mailing list - Terry KaySun, 14 Oct 2001 00:39:26 -0500...The fact that ethylene glycol, as a base, with a mixture of corrosion inhibitor's, will prevent electrolysis from occurring, in a cooling system...
- Re: coolant optionsHistorical mailing list - rpcMon, 2 Jan 2006 14:46:32 -0800...any ethylene glycol based coolant sold at shucks or walmart is "safe" for the wbx. that said, the oem vw blue, as well as...
- Re: ???-Antifreeze: Is Orange OK-???Historical mailing list - Stuart MacMillanTue, 18 Jan 2000 12:46:34 -0800...It is still ethylene glycol based, but has an entirely different additive package (and chemistry) that prevents acid formation for at least five years...
- Re: Sierra Propylene Glycol Coolant?Historical mailing list - Joel WalkerMon, 11 Sep 95 12:20:27 CDT...Autobahn ZVW-237-104 antifreeze & summer coolant Phosphate free formula for use in Volkswagen & Audi water cooled vehicles Ethylene Glycol based, Phosphate free recommended...
- Leaking antifreeze from under rear passenger seatHistorical mailing list - Todd D. GadberrySun, 26 Mar 2000 08:33:03 -0800...yup, ethylene glycol. I traced it back to a little do-hickey underneath the rear passenger seat. I can tell that there's some...
- Re: another coolant questionHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyTue, 12 Apr 2011 09:13:58 -0500...Sierra coolant, propylene glycol rather than ethylene glycol, is also phosphate free. The last named is what GoWesty sells and installs in waterboxer engines...
- Re: Form Jay Leno's GarageHistorical mailing list - Alistair BellThu, 5 Apr 2012 14:33:35 -0700the Evans stuff is ethylene glycol based (plus propylene glycol and prob some other additives). I can see its pros and cons and and...
- Re: orange coolant...who uses it?Historical mailing list - Tom L. NealSun, 23 May 1999 18:21:39 -0700...Texaco > >DexCool, stuff? Ethylene glycol based, no phosphates or silicates. > >Sounds good, esp. @$6.99/gal vs $15 for Autobahn. Is there a catch...
- Re: Antifreeze AgainHistorical mailing list - Gerald MasarSat, 22 May 2004 11:12:40 -0700...They had 3 > Prestone antifreezes to choose from: > > The regular green stuff. > > A low tox [not ethylene glycol based] antifreeze. > > Orange extended life antifreeze...
- Re: About coolantHistorical mailing list - Don HansonSat, 12 Dec 2009 14:16:40 -0800...Slower quench = > slower heat transfer. > > Numbers here: > http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ethylene-glycol-d_146.html > > http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/overall-heat-transfer-coefficients...
- Re: Coolant sludge?Historical mailing list - Dennis HaynesSun, 13 Feb 2011 10:27:22 -0500Mixing Sierra (Propylene Glycol) with any other coolant (Ethylene Glycol) is a recipe for a mess. The gritty stuff in the coolant system can...
- Re: was To buy or not to buy: 87 Westy NOW: Green Coolant?Historical mailing list - Terry K.Fri, 31 May 2002 23:18:24 -0500...annual basis--- And in a poll, the finding were that where ethylene glycol was originlly used, the phosphate free stuff caused problems in the...
- Re: 50/50 water/coolant ratioHistorical mailing list - Scott De SantiTue, 29 Aug 2000 02:17:15 EDT...phosphate free coolant that we mix with water is not 100% ethylene glycol. Interesting that for an electric system you're using distilled water...
- Re: Temperature guageHistorical mailing list - Timothy HanninkSun, 8 Apr 2001 23:15:02 -0400...Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems. Designed for modern...
- Re: Coolant draining strategy? MY WAY ...Historical mailing list - Rocket J SquirrelSat, 23 Oct 2004 10:00:55 -0700jimt wrote: >Home useage amounts of ethylene glycol are to be disposed of through the >sewage system. They are not permitted to be flushed...
- Re: What is the Cubic Capacity of the RM182B Fridge?Historical mailing list - populuxeFri, 9 May 2003 18:47:07 -0500...Imagine trying to syphon just the oil off the top-- the sweet taste of ethylene glycol spoiled by the wretched oil. chris c wisconsin...
- Re: Antifreeze ExperimentHistorical mailing list - Joe RomasWed, 22 Nov 2000 17:26:48 -0500...the orange stuff showing a higher freezing point. > Both solutions are ethylene glycol based, so there must be differences in the > other additives. > I...
- Re: orange coolant...who uses it?Historical mailing list - Max/Joyce WellhouseSat, 22 May 1999 12:02:02 -0700...Texaco DexCool, stuff? Ethylene glycol based, no phosphates or silicates. Sounds good, esp. @$6.99/gal vs $15 for Autobahn. Is there a catch...
- Re: HELP Flashing red temp light!Historical mailing list - Joel WalkerSun, 29 Apr 2001 11:39:11 -0500...they said any ethylene glycol antifreeze would work fine, IF you replaced it every two years. they were not very flattering of propylene glycol...
- Re: CoolantHistorical mailing list - Rick KollerTue, 13 Apr 1999 14:42:06 -0400...It is a Ethylene Glycol >coolant, that is Silicate and Phosphate free. Rather than the typical green >or blue color, it is a red...
- Re: My Mechanic's Odd ReactionHistorical mailing list - LeonThu, 16 Oct 2003 19:56:31 -0700...Is it ethylene glycol??? Is it non- > phosphate?? > If yes to both, it meets spec. If not, it doesn't. All the VW blue...
- Re: (green=phosphate?) was: Radiator BleedingHistorical mailing listTue, 3 Sep 1996 23:49:45 -0400...Isn't the ethylene glycol responsible for the green color (as opposed to the phosphate)? Someone please enlighten me. >> Actually the color is added...
- Non-phos E-Glycol(Dex Cool)Historical mailing list - Doktor TimTue, 1 Jul 2003 16:12:10 -0700...The spec then as today has been non-phosphate ethylene glycol. The belated GM DexCool (all orange) spec ist gut in any good name...
- Re: Coolant and int. lighting questionsHistorical mailing list - Budd PremackThu, 12 Nov 1998 00:30:04 -0600...both make a phosphate-free antifreeze at comparable prices to regular ethylene-glycol antifreeze. They should each be available at most any FLAPS. (VW...
- Re: Cleaning Oily Gunge out of Cooling SystemHistorical mailing list - Tom HargraveMon, 3 May 2010 08:05:11 -0500...Clean 1 gill (US) Fluorescene 1 tablet Ethylene glycol 1 quart Broccoli juice 3 quarts Hope this cures all your ills and aches! (P...
- Re: Radiator cooling fan - stuck ON!Historical mailing list - David BeierlWed, 2 Jun 2010 00:40:49 -0400...Wizard! You're supposed to use ethylene glycol in the radiator, not fuming nitric acid! Do my eyes deceive me or was there actually...
- Re: Cleaning Oily Grunge out of Cooling SystemHistorical mailing list - Dennis HaynesTue, 4 May 2010 00:30:01 -0400...Clean 1 gill (US) Fluorescene 1 tablet Ethylene glycol 1 quart Broccoli juice 3 quarts Hope this cures all your ills and aches! (P...
- Re: Leaking antifreeze from under rear passenger seatHistorical mailing list - Todd D. GadberrySun, 26 Mar 2000 11:18:10 -0800...Try shutting off the valve and > see if it stops leaking. > > BTW, ethylene glycol is toxic...bad for your liver. Don't taste too...
- Re: FLUIDS for VANAGONSHistorical mailing list - Timothy HanninkTue, 27 Aug 2002 13:09:06 -0700...miles OIL FILTER:(Mann) COOLANT: (Texaco/Halvoline Dex-Cool - phosphate-free, ethylene glycol based) When I bought it, it had green Prestone, will change...
- Re: repeated water pumps failingHistorical mailing list - Doktor TimFri, 4 Feb 2000 10:59:40 -0800...Are they using the cheapest antifreese they can find?? Make the move to the specified non-phosphate ethylene glycol. It wouldn't suprise me...
- Re: FLUIDS for VANAGONSHistorical mailing list - Doktor TimTue, 27 Aug 2002 15:47:04 -0700...Halvolene Dex-Cool (phosphate-free, ethylene glycol based, >Orange), Blue Stuff? (what is it? who makes it?) Phosphate free e-glychol, any brand will...
- Re: Another way to drain coolantHistorical mailing list - Scott Daniel - TurbovansSat, 18 Oct 2008 17:40:31 -0700...I've sure never seen that occur ! Did someone say dump it down the drain ? I thought *everyone* knew conventional ethylene glycol anti-freeze...