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• Re: help w/ charging/filling AC
  Historical mailing list - Doug in Calif
  Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:40:39 -0700
  ...Horse pucky! 134a is 20 percent LESS EFFICIENT than R12 Its a FACT that if you convert an R12 system over you will loose...
• Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?
  Historical mailing list - David Bohannan
  Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:06:21 -0400
  ...R12 or R134 - How to distinguish? > > > > > > > Is it possible to tell if the AC is R12 or R134, BESIDES the > > > > low/high side > > > > fittings...
• Re: Bus Depot A/C Compressor Sanden 508
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:33:31 -0500
  ...Before ordering I called and asked if it was R-134 compatible and was told yes, either R12 or R134. It has a sticker...
• Re: A/C shop in CA?
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:04:38 -0500
  ...Another thing too, is that the R12 system with the R12 compressor will cool much better that an R12 system converted to R134a. Apparently...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Wed, 25 May 2005 16:54:52 -0400
  ...It is illegal to replace R12 in a system with a hyrdocarbon refrigerant. It is illegal to mix refrigerants. You can replace R12 with...
• Re: help w/ charging/filling AC
  Historical mailing list - Zoran Mladen
  Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:23:28 -0700
  ...Horse pucky! 134a is 20 percent LESS EFFICIENT than R12 Its a FACT that if you convert an R12 system over you will loose...
• Air conditioning - R134a condenser retrofit?
  Historical mailing list - Karl Mullendore
  Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:14:22 -0500
  In comparing R12 and R134a systems on cars here, it seems the condenser design is different: The R12 uses round tubes, R134a uses flat...
• My R134a experience
  Historical mailing list - Michael Diehr
  Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:14:13 -0700
  My 85 westy has a slow leak (as many do) and so about 3 years after my last R12 chargeup, I decided to go...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Mike D.
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:25:13 -0700
  ...04 -0700 >From: "Keith A. Hughes" <keithahughes@QWEST.NET> >Subject: Re: R12 or R134? > >> So my theory is that there is a slow leak...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Ken Wilford
  Tue, 24 May 2005 21:30:50 -0400
  ...I use Freeze-12 instead of R12 since it works well and is cheaper. However you will still need a refrigerant license to buy...
• Re: A/C -R12--R134a, VW tech bulletin, there's one.
  Historical mailing list - Michael Modl
  Tue, 18 Aug 1998 01:54:57 EDT
  ...I found a very informative web site for those interested: >> Your dealer has the info for converting the R12 system to R134. If my...
• Re: How to convert to 134?
  Historical mailing list - Bill Collins
  Tue, 6 May 2008 14:29:14 -0400
  ...Are you saying that it works to mix R12 and 134A, rather than having the R12 recovered and then filling with R134A? Bill
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:56:14 -0500
  ...R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:58:03 -0500, Stan Wilder wrote > > I never said r134a was as...
• Re: a/c
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Thu, 7 Sep 2006 12:40:09 -0500
  Roger, It might be worth mentioning here that the stock AC system on a Vanagon was for R12. Unless the compressor was changed out...
• Re: A/C tools question
  Historical mailing list - Eric Ley
  Fri, 10 May 2013 12:11:50 -0400
  ...These days I would have a shop pull a > vacuum. > > Just remember a "empty" R12 system is still full of R12, it's just...
• Re: ES-12 Replacement for R-12 Refrigerant
  Historical mailing list
  Tue, 18 Jun 2002 04:19:00 EDT
  ...my R12 substituted a/c blew cold and ran great.. actually i have one can of R12 left - the real stuff that you cant...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - John Lauterbach
  Wed, 25 May 2005 08:42:31 -0400
  ...all my R12 is gone..? (bummer) >A properly working AC system in a late model (86 and later) Vanagon (or > Westy) will cool you...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Mon, 23 May 2011 21:14:08 -0500
  ...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the > > >> cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
• Sure is nice to have that A/C
  Historical mailing list - Chris Dixon
  Sat, 13 Aug 2005 01:57:10 EDT
  ...Before doing this, I did a lot of research on "Freeze 12" and other R12 and 134 substitutes. If your conversion's done right...
• Re: D.I.Y. R-134 Kit AC Recharge advice
  Historical mailing list - David Del Ben
  Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:43:08 +1100
  ...Don't see any reason why the Vanagons cannot be successfully converted to R134a from R12 when done correctly. David Del Ben Air International...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - Jeff Schwaia
  Tue, 24 May 2011 17:53:04 -0700
  R134a is a poor replacement for R12. It's not nearly as efficient and it runs at a much high pressure that the old...
• R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - 80 Westy Pokey
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 10:56:51 -0400
  Anyone done one of these? What does it entail? Thanks, Chris
• Re: R134 USERS??????????
  Historical mailing list - Michael A. Radtke
  Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:40:34 -0700
  ...R134a seems to cool about as poorly as R12 did in my system. I am licensed to by R12, but I chose to convert...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
  Wed, 25 May 2005 19:29:48 -0700
  ...all my R12 is gone..? (bummer) >I read up some more on the whole Duracool stuff. There is some > interesting reading, and what is...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - TJ Hannink
  Tue, 13 May 2003 20:45:17 -0700
  --- Kun Chang <Albert3365@WMCONNECT.COM> wrote: > My mechanic charged me $53/lb of Freon R12, a total > of $187 for 3.5 lb. I...
• Re: Adding freon
  Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
  Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:34:19 -0500
  R134a will leak past the front seal of many older A/C compressors that were designed for R12. The compressor front seal depends on...
• Re: Aircon Retrofit?
  Historical mailing list - Joshua Van Tol
  Mon, 17 May 1999 20:21:24 -0500
  ...converting to R124a > >Before you do, check out ... >http://www.autofrost.com/ > >Have no personal experience with R406 and hope to hear from >someone...
• Air Ciondition
  Historical mailing list - John Russ
  Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:46:26 -0400
  What is the difference between R12 and R134 John Russ 1988 Vanagon Wolfburg 1986 Vanagon GL [text/html]
• What are the R12 A/C operating pressures?
  Historical mailing list - Robert Lilley
  Sun, 29 Jun 2003 01:58:15 EDT
  What is the normal high and low A/C operating pressures? Robert
• R12-R134a Retrofits
  Historical mailing list - Subject: R12-R134a Retrofits
  Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:54:30 GMT
  ...The Sanden results seems to bolster the growing data that R12 to R134a retrofits may not be as horrible as originally feared. Sanden gives...
• Re: Air Conditioner Question
  Historical mailing list - Amy and Andrew
  Thu, 21 Feb 2002 21:04:35 -0500
  ...In the early years, it wasn't much Freon to get a clear sight > glass and R12 used to be cheap. Not anymore. My...
• Re: A/C -R12--R134a
  Historical mailing list - t bill
  Tue, 18 Aug 1998 22:59:52 -0700
  ...scare > > But anyway, since this old thing had R12 and being a > Berserkelan, I am very much guilt ridden for having released > all my...
• Re: Adding freon
  Historical mailing list - David Beierl
  Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:15:42 -0400
  ...Personally I'd recommend sticking with the R12 (and replacing the compressor seals). The loss over say ten years amounts to a few aerosol...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Wed, 25 May 2005 10:32:55 -0400
  ...all my R12 is gone..? (bummer) > > >> A properly working AC system in a late model (86 and later) Vanagon >> (or >> Westy) will cool you...
• Re: Vanagon A/C: R-12 to R-134a No-Mod Changeout
  Historical mailing list - PAT
  Wed, 20 May 1998 11:57:55 -0400
  ...Most will evacuate your R12 system for free. They reuse your R12 in other cars. Some clowns will try to charge you to evacuate...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Tue, 24 May 2005 23:13:48 -0400
  ...If your system was not cooling sufficiently on R12 you need to find out why before you start exploring alternatives. At this date, I...
• a/c condensation
  Historical mailing list - James Vidal
  Wed, 8 Jun 2005 08:23:00 -0400
  ...had a new expansion valve, and dryer installed with fresh r12 Yes r12. Since then I am getting Ice cold air but the amount...
• Re: A/C tune-up time
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:20:37 -0600
  ...A/C tune-up time Jaime Forero wrote: >My 91 has an R12 system. Has anyone done a modification to 134A?? Does the >whole...
• Re: R12 or R134?-how much for new system?
  Historical mailing list - Alec Valos
  Wed, 30 Jul 2003 23:14:55 -0500
  ...To: maurio11@COMCAST.NET >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: R12 or R134? >Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:31:09 +0000 > > > ----------------------- Clip...
• Re: A/C conversion to R134a?????
  Historical mailing list - Jim Henry
  Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:33:13 -0400
  ...I considered just recharging with R12, like I did 3 years ago, but at $70+ a pound for R12, the new dryer and attention...
• Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)
  Historical mailing list - Yi-Ruey Wei
  Wed, 19 Aug 1998 19:01:33 -0500
  ...A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point) On Wed, 19 Aug 1998, Yi-Ruey Wei wrote: > Why the US is the only country...
• Air Conditioning/85 'gon
  Historical mailing list - Leo Girard
  Sun, 17 May 1998 11:23:06 -0400
  ...available? cost ?-please) and recharge with R12 2. Refurbish the entire system to accept new refrigerant (R134???) at "considerable cost". 3. Find someone who...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - Fredrich Hesterberg
  Tue, 13 May 2003 23:55:54 -0500
  ...My mechanic charged me $53/lb of Freon R12, a total of $187 for 3.5 lb. I do not remember ever paying so...
• AC substitute fillers
  Historical mailing list - Mike Miller
  Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:53:23 -0700
  Volks, Is it OK to use one of the butane based working fluids, Duracool in this case, in an R12a system? Mike
• Re: Sanden compressors
  Historical mailing list - The Bus Depot
  Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:32:33 -0400
  ...The reason I ask is that I am opting > to buy a new compressor and still operate with the R12 until > further problems (hopefully...
• Re: Adding freon
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:07:13 -0500
  From memory (and that's pretty shakey these days - more senior moments than I like to admit) - R12 can still be used in the...
• Re: R-12 Alternatives
  Historical mailing list - Thomas Marsicano
  Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:21:57 -0400
  ...I can't argue R12 vs R134 since my AC didn't work when I bought the van. I converted simply as a matter...
• AC RETROFIT R12 to R134a
  Historical mailing list - Eric Zeno
  Tue, 7 May 1996 11:39:37 (EST)
  VANAGON AIRCONDITIONING RETOFITTING R12 SYSTEMS TO R134A SYSTEMS MODEL: 1985-1992 This infomation came from Mitchell international 1995 data Cautions: Part numbers for reference...
• AC
  Historical mailing list - dan moy/SUBURBAN
  Mon, 1 Jun 1998 17:34:13 -0400
  ...My 91 uses R12 do I have to replace it with R12 2. If the above is true how much should the system need...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Keith A. Hughes
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:44:04 -0700
  ...It sounds like the compressor engages, but when I tested the > valves there was no R12 pressure at all. > > So my theory is that...
• AC does loses freon
  Historical mailing list - JAIME E FORERO
  Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:54:04 -0700
  ...R12 was the original fluid but since we can't get it anymore he uses something called Freeze 12 which works OK but does...
• Re: improbable fixes
  Historical mailing list - Karl Mullendore
  Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:01:11 -0500
  ...http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0010E&L=vanagon&P=R12541
• Re: D.I.Y. R-134 Kit AC Recharge advice
  Historical mailing list - Charles Hokanson
  Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:16:04 EDT
  ...you have R12 and they cannot be mixed (either physically or legally, and niether can their oils). If you are thinkng of using one...
• Re: R12 vs. R134
  Historical mailing list - Eric Small
  Tue, 30 May 2000 23:18:35 EDT
  ...How does that relate to the R12 vs R134 debate. Is Freeze 12 similar as R12? >SNIP< What's the advice on replacing the...
• Re: '84 Westfalia A/C resurrection-expansion valve
  Historical mailing list - Steve Cotsford
  Tue, 1 May 2001 15:36:08 EDT
  ...The expansion valve is of very common manufacture of the period and probably has an orifice,seals most suitable for R12. It is located...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - David Brodbeck
  Wed, 14 May 2003 12:42:20 -0400
  ...Not so much because of the flammability as because it'll contaminate an R12 recovery machine. David Brodbeck, N8SRE '82 Diesel Westfalia '94 Honda...
• Aircon Retrofit?
  Historical mailing list - Kent Christensen
  Sun, 16 May 1999 11:35:25 -0600
  ...converting to R124a Before you do, check out ... http://www.autofrost.com/ Have no personal experience with R406 and hope to hear from someone...
• Re: AC System Repair/ Upgrade
  Historical mailing list - Mike Miller
  Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:42:56 -0700
  ...I'm considering conversion to Freeze-12 rather >>> than >>> another R12 recharge (since the R12 will undoubtably leak away again, >>> adding >>> to the ozone...
• Re: Air Conditioning help
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:32:46 -0600
  ...Is this true? Freeze 12 was developed so that R12 systems could be recharged without changing the lubricant. The 142b carries the lubricant, but...
• Autofrost / R406A / GHG-X7 Homepage
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Fri, 27 Jun 2003 07:23:45 -0500
  ...Claims direct replacement for R12. Claims EPA approved. Check the details for your own satisfaction. http://www.autofrost.com/ John Rodgers 88GL Driver