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• Re: Vanagon A/C: R-12 to R-134a No-Mod Changeout
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mancuso
  Wed, 20 May 1998 11:28:43 -0400
  ...Apparently R12 helps cool and lubricate the compressor better then >134A, so R12 systems can get by with a "lesser" oil. This is purely...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - Bob Stevens
  Wed, 14 May 2003 21:52:47 -0600
  "I wonder how much respect an R-12 smuggler gets in prison..." I wonder if they ever get there? Bob http://groups.msn.com...
• Re: Propane fired airconditioning
  Historical mailing list - Zeitgeist
  Mon, 24 Jul 2006 12:30:44 -0700
  ...One of the pitfalls of converting an A/C system away from R12 is that there are a number of things that are dialed...
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Robert Campbell
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:12:44 -0700
  ...my R12 system leaked out in a matter of weeks. Living in FL, driving with A/C is definitely preferred. So, off to the...
• Re: 85 Vanagon AC
  Historical mailing list - sstones
  Fri, 24 Feb 1995 12:06:08 -0500 (EST)
  ...It's probably just outta R12 and they can fill it up for you. After filling, get them to go around the lines with...
• Re: R-12 alternatives
  Historical mailing list - Robert Campbell
  Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:13:10 -0700
  ...After a lot of consideration I decided to stick with R12 Freon in the system. It is set up for that. All components were...
• Re: AC System Repair/ Upgrade
  Historical mailing list - Jaime Forero
  Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:56:06 -0500
  Where is the Maxi Fridge available?? On line?? Is thi s direct substitute for R12?? On my 91 vanagon, my mechanic started using Freeze...
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:55:09 -0500
  ...COM> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion > On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:59...
• Re: air conditioning
  Historical mailing list
  Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:29:16 -0400
  ...was your van converted to R134? vanagons originally had R12
• Re: R-134a Oil
  Historical mailing list - Richard A. Jones
  Thu, 14 Jun 2001 08:02:09 -0600
  ...They state that some forms of PAG oil don't mix well with the residual R12 mineral oil. Richard A. Jones Boulder, Colorado '81...
• Converting to R134
  Historical mailing list - Sam Pacifico
  Wed, 4 Jun 2003 17:53:58 -0700
  Can anyone give me a reference to the procedure to convert my '91 from R12 to R134. I know that i have seen this...
• Re: My R134a experience
  Historical mailing list - Jeffrey Schwaia
  Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:55:18 -0700
  ...My R134a experience My 85 westy has a slow leak (as many do) and so about 3 years after my last R12 chargeup, I...
• Re: A/C tune-up time
  Historical mailing list - Mike Miller
  Sun, 14 Mar 2004 15:30:29 -0800
  ...Doesn't cool as well as R12 even with a better condenser. Mike On 3/14/04 11:09 AM, "Jaime Forero" <jforero@PDQ...
• Re: Air Conditioner Question
  Historical mailing list - Myron Lind
  Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:15:05 -0800
  ...In the early years, it wasn't much Freon to get a clear > > sight > > glass and R12 used to be cheap. Not anymore. My...
• Re: A/C Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Eric Zeno
  Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:31:25 -0400
  ...That is where the R12 that was in there went. Rather than wasting your money on the "new stuff" by having it leak out...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Dan Erlandson
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:14:45 -0400
  Our 91 was converted back in 96 ??? or so to R134. We usually have to have it charged once a year... Note to self...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Wed, 25 May 2005 10:33:47 -0400
  I believe that information is on Duracool's web page. Washington, for example allows it to be installed by shops, while Virginia does not...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Tue, 24 May 2011 22:53:58 -0500
  ...But there is little vanagon content in this, beyond the choice to retrofit an old R12 system. Most of them are leaky, and at...
• Re: A/C oil leak
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Sun, 23 May 2004 10:04:01 -0500
  ...If you have R12 you can have the system evacuated and save the r12 (cost more than loosing and putting it back). Stan Wilder...
• Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?
  Historical mailing list - Roger Sisler
  Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:21:50 -0400
  ...for service people will have a test kit for 134a or r12. Do a yahoo search.Lots of online a/c stores. Also a...
• Re: R12 to R134 conv
  Historical mailing list
  Mon, 29 Apr 1996 12:17:53 -0300 (ADT)
  > It's real simple, and cheap if I can remember the only thing you > need is a new dryer and some fittings. Don't...
• Re: Adding Freon
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Sun, 4 Apr 2010 11:28:17 -0400
  ...Adding freon From memory (and that's pretty shakey these days - more senior moments than I like to admit) - R12 can still be used...
• AC Shop Recommendations in Vancouver BC for '90 Westy?
  Historical mailing list - Rich & Anita
  Fri, 13 Sep 2019 11:51:46 -0700
  ...The Westy has never been retro-fitted from the original R12 and no AC components have been replaced except of course the receiver drier...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - BenT Syncro
  Mon, 23 May 2011 13:06:23 -0700
  ...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
• Re: A/C R-12 to R-134A
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Tue, 1 May 2001 18:25:59 -0500
  ...It is not as efficient as the R12 so they make the clutch pulley smaller on the R134a system and spin the compressor faster...
• Re: Freeze 12 Update
  Historical mailing list - Rob
  Sat, 8 Jul 2006 21:28:31 -0700
  ...use Freeze 12, supposedly a near perfect >replacement for Freon R12, the R12 system must first be converted to a >R134a system in the...
• Re: 134 conversion
  Historical mailing list - Michael Knight
  Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:45:40 -0600
  ...for less that the R12 refrigerant charge. >>I was quoted $175.00 to recharge my Porsche system with R12 and that is >>about the...
• Re: Propane fired airconditioning
  Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
  Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:36:05 -0700
  ...One of the pitfalls of converting an A/C system away from R12 is that there are a number of things that are dialed...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - Mike S
  Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:35:06 -0400
  ...the compressor Bus Depot just sold me as > compatible with either R12 or R134A isn't-the label on it says "mineral > oil" I...
• Re: AC Question
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:46:42 -0500
  ...R134a doesn't work nearly as well as R12 in an unmodified R12 system. Mods can run into some serious change. R134a will work...
• Re: What happens if you put 134a into a r12 systems without doing nothing?
  Historical mailing list - Daryl Christensen
  Fri, 1 Jul 2005 19:26:03 -0700
  ...What happens if you put 134a into a r12 systems without doing nothing? > This has been covered exhaustively in one way or another over...
• Re: AC 134a refrigerant leak down
  Historical mailing list - JRodgers
  Wed, 8 May 2013 22:43:50 -0500
  ...But in fact - R12 actually performed better - but there are a few refrigerants out there that very closely match the R12. Freeze12 is one...
• Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)
  Historical mailing list - John Anderson
  Tue, 18 Aug 1998 23:45:58 -0400
  ...is only sad I didn't buy 2 20lb canisters of R12 10 years ago instead of one 10 lb canister, then I wouldn...
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:55:39 -0400
  ...The GoldBrick had R12 when I bought it. Cools down the interior in 5 minutes or less (from 134 degrees farenheit). I have since...
• Re: AC Shop Recommendations in Vancouver BC
  Historical mailing list - Rich O'Halloran
  Fri, 3 May 2019 20:04:01 -0700
  ...The new R134a refrigerant is different from the old R12 and doesn't work as well with the stock condenser. I changed mine a...
• Re: help w/ charging/filling AC
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:19:12 -0500
  ...I notice now that the local grease spot in the front auto stores are selling the same R124a for $7.00 per 12 oz...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Mike Miller
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:02:52 -0700
  Got it converted to R134a Mike On 7/29/03 10:31 AM, "David Maurio" <maurio11@COMCAST.NET> wrote: >> ----------------------- Clip ---------------------- >> Time to take a...
• AC
  Historical mailing list - James Ogul
  Tue, 7 May 2013 15:56:53 -0400
  ...How can I tell if its R12 or R134A? If its the former what type of shop could convert it? Thanks Jim
• Airconditioning 1987 Westy
  Historical mailing list - Sidney White
  Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:08:51 EST
  ...Last time most said no because the van needs the max ac it can get from the system, my system is low on R12...
• DIY AC
  Historical mailing list - PAT
  Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:10:31 -0400
  ...My 91 uses R12 do I have to replace it with R12 >> 2. If the above is true how much should the system need...
• Re: '87 westy brand new!
  Historical mailing list - Malcolm Stebbins
  Mon, 30 Aug 2004 09:02:04 -0700
  ...http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9909A&L=vanagon&P=R12789 and http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2...
• AC question
  Historical mailing list - Sorin Bejenaru
  Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:30:37 -0400
  I am getting ready to put Freeze 12 in my AC system and I am wondering if anyone knows how many pounds of R12...
• Re: A/C compressor question
  Historical mailing list - Lindemulder
  Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:52:01 -0400
  Steve; Replace your r12 with HotShot it's the direct replacement and sell for 10.00/lbs. Hans -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List...
• Re: Air Conditioning help
  Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
  Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:54:58 -0400
  Freeze 12 is ~80% R134 and ~20% another refrigerant, designed to operate at pressures closer to R12 system specs. Not a hydrocarbon, and legal...
• Re: Vanagon A/C: R-12 to R-134a No-Mod Changeout
  Historical mailing list - Joseph J. Liasse
  Wed, 20 May 1998 19:39:51 -0400
  ...Most will evacuate your R12 system for free. They >reuse your R12 in other cars. Some clowns will try to charge you to >evacuate...
• Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)
  Historical mailing list - Yi-Ruey Wei
  Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:44:49 -0500
  ...A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point) >R12 is still available and a superior produce! (See below) >Put away your guilt. The 03...
• Re: A/C shop in CA?
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Sun, 2 Jul 2006 13:12:27 -0400
  ...Please take note, Jon, and all who think using R12 is OK. It is not. Please consider using anything but R12. Here's what...
• R12 - R134a Retrofits
  Historical mailing list - Subject: R12 - R134a Retrofits
  Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:30:03 GMT
  Received another mailing from Castrol today on their Icematic Retro100 ester-based oil for R12-R134a retrofits on auto A/C. This one included...
• Re: AC does loses freon
  Historical mailing list - BenT Syncro
  Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:22:09 -0700
  ...R12 was the original fluid but since we can't get it > anymore he uses something called Freeze 12 which works OK but does...
• Re: AC Removal
  Historical mailing list - Karl Wolz
  Sat, 28 Jun 2014 12:12:00 -0700
  Takes a few mikes, like 10 - 20, and driving into bright sunlight is bad, but for touring , the original R12 setup works pretty well...
• Re: AC System Repair/ Upgrade
  Historical mailing list - Mike Miller
  Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:22:34 -0700
  ...I'm considering conversion to Freeze-12 rather than > another R12 recharge (since the R12 will undoubtably leak away again, adding > to the ozone...
• Re: AC Conversion: R12 to R134A
  Historical mailing list - Michael Townsend
  Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:52:53 -0400
  ...RR.COM> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: AC Conversion: R12 to R134A > Date: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:10 PM > > Remove your...
• Re: Red tek r-134 question
  Historical mailing list - David Brodbeck
  Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:41:59 -0400
  ...Noisy compressors > are a normal thing on R12 system retrofits. Belt squeal is another > symptom of the higher head pressures. Most R134 systems use...
• Fw: r12 or redk tek capacity for 84 sd 508 based air conditioning
  Historical mailing list - Owen
  Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:07:05 -0500
  ...I need to know the total capacity of r12 for an 84 with the sd508 compressor on it. I replaced two lines and flushed...
• Re: What happens if you put 134a into a r12 systems without doing nothing?
  Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
  Fri, 1 Jul 2005 17:25:52 -0700
  ...What happens if you put 134a into a r12 systems without doing nothing? > Two mechanic told me to go ahead but I still have...
• Re: Adding freon
  Historical mailing list - Rob
  Sat, 3 Apr 2010 18:53:17 -0700
  Air conditioning, a favorite of the list! FWIW R134a has been successfully put into R12 systems.... Go to the vanagon list archives http://gerry...
• Freon replacement for R12...
  Historical mailing list - Harry Yates
  Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:13:45 +0000
  Hi Everyone. Just found this on the web. For those of us with R-12 freon in our air conditioners, this might be an...
• Re: Propane Tank
  Historical mailing list - Tom Stone
  Sun, 15 Sep 2002 08:19:50 EDT
  A while back, they sold a lot of kits to convert R12 tanks into compressed air tanks. I have a couple of them. Not...
• Re: Used Van Help: I bought the Van!
  Historical mailing list - Thomas Brobst
  Tue, 1 Jul 2003 12:00:24 -0400
  If all the R12 hasn't already leaked out into the ozone layer, then yes, you do. I had a shop suck it out...
• Re: How to convert to 134?
  Historical mailing list - pdooley
  Wed, 7 May 2008 13:37:57 -0400
  ...How to convert to 134? First off r12 is a ozone depleting gas and r134a is a green house gas two very different areas...