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- Re: Rear Hatch Swap on 1982 VanagonHistorical mailing list - Scott Daniel - TurbovansThu, 3 Mar 2011 14:50:34 -0800...stuff does stay on the rear glass easily, due to the aerodynamics of the AW roof ..so that van needs a rear wiper actually...
- Re: Fuel econmy and VW Camper FamilyHistorical mailing list - ralph meyermannFri, 23 Nov 2012 19:07:05 -0600...But with these hefty Vehicles with the aerodynamics of a cardboard box we don't expect the best milage! Velma 82diesel 1.6 na...
- Re: aerodynamics, was: 101 MPH Vanagon!Historical mailing list - Dennis WoodTue, 19 Oct 2004 14:37:14 -0400Can anyone decipher the wind speed in the wind tunnel shots? Given the westy shot, perhaps I shouldn't worry about removing my roof...
- Re: pop-up vs. high topHistorical mailing list - Alain Pierre HovasseTue, 13 Jun 2000 19:49:05 -0400...on the road compared to the pop-top campers? < > > Juli, > > The aerodynamics of the top are a consideration. In my case I haven't...
- Re: aerodynamics, was: 101 MPH Vanagon!Historical mailing list - Andrew GrebneffMon, 18 Oct 2004 00:02:52 +1300>ProjectZwo had some bolt-on stuff that was supposed to help >Not sure if it was aerodynamic or just apperance help but anyway, a...
- Re: van aerodynamics, was Re: BenT's dream vanagon now for saleHistorical mailing list - Chris SWed, 20 Jan 2010 13:08:48 -0500People tend to pay attention to what they see and ignore what they don't. If the top of our Vanagons looked like the...
- Van Tables, misc parts for saleHistorical mailing list - Joe FernandezFri, 10 Jun 2011 15:19:00 -0700...These connect under the front fiberglass bumper for aerodynamics? :) Scratched and bumped, but look complete. $5. -Pair of black steel OEM bumpers from a...
- Re: Vanagon spoilerHistorical mailing listTue, 14 May 1996 20:16:23 -0400...calling a spoiler... >But does your vanagon really have good enough aerodynamics and go fast >enough to cause lift? Although I don't know...
- Re: aerodynamics, was: 101 MPH Vanagon!Historical mailing list - David BeierlMon, 18 Oct 2004 16:43:45 -0400At 12:49 10/18/2004, Alistair Bell wrote: > From an old Road and Track test of the 1980 Vanagon Was that the issue...
- Re: Aerodynamics related to fuel consumption (for an 84 tin top)Historical mailing list - Poppie JagersandWed, 26 Oct 2011 13:56:50 -0700________________________________ From: Danny C. <bruiserbabie@YAHOO.COM> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:18:37 PM �> Seriously!!! your worried about what drag there is on...
- Re: (NVC)- A different kind of WestyHistorical mailing list - Neil2Thu, 1 May 2008 08:18:07 -0700...to VW's massive 'mistakes' in virtually every department (electrical, hydraulics, aerodynamics, engine size, ad naus). hehehehe On 4/30/08, Florian Speier <groups...
- Re: van aerodynamics, was Re: BenT's dream vanagon now for saleHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyWed, 20 Jan 2010 11:09:17 -0500Oh, I have no question that it is a drag, more than a bit. But the pictured vehicle, with the poptop but no luggage...
- Re: MPG and AC - MythbustersHistorical mailing list - Dennis HaynesWed, 29 Aug 2007 10:02:01 -0400...R-12 or R-134a? Modern variable displacement compressor? What difference does the inside/outside temperature differential make? Were the aerodynamics of the vehicle...
- Re: Why don't we have these kinds of Pop top here in the USA
"Atlantic "Historical mailing list - Roger WhittakerFri, 26 Sep 2008 17:38:35 -0700...back end and front end of the top, different angles and > aerodynamics. > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-T3-T25-Westfalia-ATLANTIC-pop-top...
- Re: Aerodynamics and the Westie luggage rack, etc..Historical mailing list - Roger WhittakerFri, 26 Sep 2008 23:31:49 -0700...So I know a little, but I certainly can't > spout > > data or numbers, just general principals. > > > Aerodynamics really only come into play at...
- Re: � � � Re: aerodynamics, was: 101 MPH Vanagon!Historical mailing list - jimtMon, 18 Oct 2004 13:19:54 -0600Thankyou thankyou for that westy number. I was just banging my head to a pulp trying to calculate the difference of that westy top...
- Re: van aerodynamics, was Re: BenT's dream vanagon now for saleHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyWed, 20 Jan 2010 20:30:03 -0500But, the original question was how the camper did compared to the pictured vehicle with a poptop but no luggage rack. We don't...
- Re: van aerodynamics, was Re: BenT's dream vanagon now for saleHistorical mailing list - Jim FelderThu, 21 Jan 2010 09:10:03 -0600...From what little I know about aerodynamics, removing that six inches up front and moving it back to mid-cabin would probably be an...
- Re: Belly pans for speed /mpgHistorical mailing list - aatransaxleSun, 18 May 2008 09:22:06 -0700...Belly pans for speed /mpg > While the vanagon might just be the worst-shape possible for efficient > aerodynamics, small improvements add up. Maybe the...
- NVC: Diesel schmiesel...i'm thinking of going electricHistorical mailing list - John C...Sat, 24 May 2008 15:31:58 +0000...the worst platforms for converting to an EV. > Too heavy, no aerodynamics. A repeatable range of 100 miles it will > cost you more than...
- Re: Watching Oil Temp (long, as usual)Historical mailing list - Rocket J SquirrelWed, 20 Jul 2011 16:20:53 -0700...I also watched my rear view mirror as more modern cars with better aerodynamics and stronger engines blew up the grade behind me, hoping...
- Vanavolvo ??Historical mailing list - Calle FallbergFri, 16 Feb 2001 18:50:46 +0100...with the same engine and with half the weight and better aerodynamics I found that one boring !) and there doesn't seem to be...
- Re: don'know much about aerodynamicsHistorical mailing listMon, 1 Aug 1994 07:26:14 -0400i think i still have all my cardboard in the front of my 83 diesel - i figured it was probably impt for cooling flow...
- sticker alignment problemsHistorical mailing list - Ron BloomquistFri, 28 Jul 2000 09:15:25 -0700...This feature, combined with the convex shape, was an effort on the part of the Vanagon design team to vastly improve aerodynamics! But, the...
- roof rack for NON poptop vanagon for saleHistorical mailing list - Ed DeBoltFri, 5 Jan 2001 23:37:03 -0800...The downside is that it does add weight up high and decrease aerodynamics..... It looks real heavy duty commando also :-). all in all I...
- Re: I've been waiting ALL WEEK for Friday.....Historical mailing list - Jim FelderFri, 5 Aug 2011 16:22:07 -0500...F1 has quietly made better for us, but in areas like aerodynamics, we would all be better off if F1 didn't allow it...
- another aero tail ideaHistorical mailing list - Alistair BellMon, 9 Nov 2009 17:43:53 -0800...for fun In case any one wants to lecture me on aerodynamics... I have no formal training but I have made 2 high speed...
- Re: Aerodynamics?Historical mailing list - Don HansonSat, 3 Nov 2018 11:23:51 -0700...2018 8:16 PM > >>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >>>>> Subject: Re: Aerodynamics? > >>>>> > >>>>> I’ve read a lot of threads but not this idea of...
- Re: Better MPG - wheels and tires ?Historical mailing list - John RodgersFri, 13 Jun 2008 16:29:06 -0500...John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Joel Sell wrote: > I am interested to see where the "under the front end aerodynamics" thread goes, but I...
- Welded a receiver hitch to my drawbarHistorical mailing list - Burdett, Jean-PierreThu, 17 May 2007 16:50:18 -0400...I debated whether to get a front mount hitch or have more efficient aerodynamics of the rear rack. So I ended up using the...
- Re: 87 Vanagon Wolfsburg TiresHistorical mailing list - John RodgersWed, 10 Apr 2002 17:28:32 -0500...It's size, weight, weight distribution, and aerodynamics require that stiff sidewall of the LT Truck tire construction for best control. > > I just replaced...
- Installing power mirrors on vanagon & PM FS (wasRe: Permanent Door MirrorHistorical mailing listWed, 24 Nov 2004 12:05:13 EST...Might have better aerodynamics - > less wind noise? The permanent lock down thing is > interesting, but mirrors aren't supposed to be > completely locked down...
- Re: Letter to VW - Vans are loved by everyoneHistorical mailing list - Robert FisherThu, 28 Feb 2008 21:26:47 -0800...If they wanted a retro-bus look to the exterior it wouldn't bother me, it would probably just be better aerodynamics, as long...
- Re: Custom Scoop Update - Should you care!Historical mailing list - Robert Steven FishFri, 23 Aug 2002 00:50:55 +0200...How far out must one actually go, to obtain a successful "scoop" effect? Would an inch end up pulling any air in?? Aerodynamics experts...
- Re: van aerodynamics, was Re: BenT's dream vanagon now for saleHistorical mailing list - Alistair BellWed, 20 Jan 2010 08:23:29 -0800Yup you said it all there Dave, you don't know the subject and are relying on "common sense". cheers alistair On 20-Jan...
- Poptop -bubble top add-on proposalHistorical mailing list - Mark DrillockThu, 8 Feb 2007 17:21:43 -0800...52" by 52" fiberglass bubble, measured at the interface with the existing top roof level, sloping appropriately in the front for aerodynamics and in...
- Re: Some aerodynamic ideas..Historical mailing list - Scott Daniel - ShazamSun, 29 Jul 2007 16:36:39 -0700...the idea of maximized interior space is diametrically-opposed to the ideals for aerodynamics. That's it all right....diametrically opposed requirements, or goals...
- Re: Porsche in a vanHistorical mailing list - BenT SyncroThu, 13 Sep 2007 15:11:37 -0700...http://www.porsche.com/uk/models/911/911-carrera-4/featuresandspecs/ Aerodynamics aside, the drivetrain shouldn't be too unhappy in a Doka or...
- Re: While talking to a New Beetle owner...Historical mailing list - edSat, 11 Mar 2000 22:54:20 -0500...the limiter to the V'gon's gas mileage is - weight? Aerodynamics? Mechanical efficiency? Obviously a heavy brick isn't going to deliver 40mpg...
- Front Mounted Rack-here's an easier solution!!Historical mailing list - Chris DixonMon, 6 Sep 2004 00:05:20 EDTSuggestion for all -- this really works!! Rather than lose all your frontal aerodynamics, putting your bikes up front, here's a suggestion. Order the...
- Re: Aerodynamics for MPGHistorical mailing list - Jim AkibaFri, 13 Jun 2008 22:51:28 -0400You may well have, but that doesn't mean that I either remember what they look like, know it's the same thing, or...
- Re: Air intake "scoops"Historical mailing listThu, 16 Dec 1999 21:50:29 ESTI do not claim to be an expert on aerodynamics. Nor do I claim that the scoops have any kind of performance boosting properties...
- Re: MPGHistorical mailing list - Dennis HaynesMon, 10 Apr 2006 08:00:19 -0400...for both legs of the trip. > > Assuming that the brick-like aerodynamics of the Westy were a > large part of the problem, I kept...
- Re: Clamshell toolbox > Now AeroDynamics & TiresHistorical mailing list - OlRivrRatWed, 10 Jan 2018 13:50:37 -0700The Squirlyness was Definitely Not the Vans Fault, it was the Falkens Not "Playing Nice" with the Tires I was running on the Rear...
- Re: van aerodynamics, was Re: BenT's dream vanagon now for saleHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyWed, 20 Jan 2010 13:38:30 -0500Oh, a good many fuel efficient vehicles have address that, of course, with cowlings (I guess that is the proper term) shielding the mechanics...
- Re: On Fuel Economy - Some Teutonic ObservationsHistorical mailing list - John RodgersThu, 9 Aug 2001 10:32:35 -0500...Somewhere back in my ancient past, I studied aviation related aerodynamics and seem to recall some references to relationships between, lift, drag, speed, power...
- Re: FRYDAY: RE-OPEN VANAGON ASSEMBLYHistorical mailing list - John BangeSat, 27 May 2006 10:00:16 -0700...Once that nose is there, providing "necessary" safety and aerodynamics, they might as well stick the front whells under it, and the engine/tranny...
- Re: Conversion CommotionHistorical mailing list - James CohenFri, 12 Dec 1997 00:21:18 -0500...85 or 91 hp is rediculously low for a vehicle the size and aerodynamics of the Vanagon. So, increasing power alone might be reason...
- Re: aerodynamics, was: 101 MPH Vanagon!Historical mailing list - Alistair BellMon, 18 Oct 2004 09:49:38 -0700On 18-Oct-04, at 8:08 AM, Bruce Nadig wrote: > O.K., I've seen all sorts of formulas and explanations for > aerodynamics...
- Re: How far can you go on a tank of gas?Historical mailing list - Matt RoberdsThu, 24 May 2007 22:09:02 -0500...either mis-adjusted or you forgot to release the parking brake), aerodynamics (driving a Westy with the top up or hauling a parts Vanagon...
- Re: Some aerodynamic ideas..Historical mailing list - Phil StanhopeMon, 30 Jul 2007 08:30:11 -0700...It is > definitely getting somewhere between 5-10% better > mpg. > The Porsche 928 is a horrible example of > aerodynamics, despite its sleek > look. Its...
- Re: Roof RacksHistorical mailing list - Max WellhouseThu, 20 Dec 2012 09:31:56 -0600...I use an oak or ash handrail for the aerodynamics. :) > > My fake rain gutters have been permanent since '89. I routinely haul > hefty Royalex...
- Re: Poptop -bubble top add-on proposalHistorical mailing list - Maggie DewFri, 9 Feb 2007 07:45:46 -0700...52" by 52" fiberglass bubble, measured at the > interface with the existing top roof level, sloping appropriately in the > front for aerodynamics and in...
- Re: Why don't we have these kinds of Pop top here in the USA
"Atlantic "Historical mailing list - Mike SSat, 27 Sep 2008 08:06:11 -0400...com/photos/pseudonomad/1405892055/ I'm not claiming which might be better, just that those pictures are meaningless with respect to the Atlantic aerodynamics.
- Re: hey howdyHistorical mailing list - Scott Daniel - ShazamWed, 25 Jul 2007 17:31:32 -0700...Because they are lacking, compared to more modern vehicles.....good aerodynamics, flush side windows, ABS brakes, air bags, and more modern crashworthiness features. They...
- Re: Better MPG - wheels and tires ?Historical mailing list - Todd LastFri, 13 Jun 2008 15:28:13 +0000...Joel Sell <justthesells@YAHOO.COM> > I am interested to see where the "under the front end aerodynamics" thread goes, > but I'm also wondering...
- Re: Luggage rack, front part of poptopHistorical mailing list - Scott Daniel - ShazamSun, 28 Oct 2007 13:51:12 -0700I would so not use that front luggage rack ! Several things wrong about it ....bad aerodynamics - creates turbulence , catches the wind etc. Water and...
- Re: WESTY AIR CONDITIONER IDEAHistorical mailing list - Michael SnowSun, 14 Sep 2003 20:00:06 -0700...cheap and easy and practical. > worried about aerodynamics? drive a porsche.. > > chris
- Re: Some aerodynamic ideas..Historical mailing list - Sudhir DesaiMon, 30 Jul 2007 09:58:45 -0400...It is > definitely getting somewhere between 5-10% better mpg. > The Porsche 928 is a horrible example of aerodynamics, despite its sleek > look. Its...
- Re: van aerodynamics, was Re: BenT's dream vanagon now for saleHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyThu, 21 Jan 2010 11:15:39 -0500Interesting, Ben. Noting the second photo, that of course is not only not a stock poptop, it is quite different from the stock poptop...