

Search messages and discussions
Search preserved mailing-list messages and current email and website contributions. Current posts are searchable before weekly archival. Recovery gaps remain possible. Words are matched together; try fewer terms if needed.
Page 6+: 60 results shown for R12.
Source-balanced relevance: matches from both collections are interleaved, with source dates breaking ties. Restoration time is not the original posting date.
- How much R134A to use in A/CHistorical mailing list - Bryan FeddishTue, 26 May 1998 12:58:29 -0400I got my Castrol R12 to R134A conversion kit today and I'm still waiting for my compressor to arrive. Does anyone know how...
- freeze 12 combustable?Historical mailing list - Lee RoesnerWed, 14 Jun 2000 11:28:22 -0700...He tells me its not a good idea because it is noticeably less efficient than the R12 and its also "combustable". Yikes! Is this...
- AC ConversionHistorical mailing list - Finn RunyonTue, 19 Jun 2001 22:20:35 EDT...I recently ordered the R12-134a conversion kit from the Bus Depot. I then read that the conversion will fail because the Vanagons AC...
- Re: AC does loses freonHistorical mailing list - Jack R.Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:21:18 -0400...R12 was the original fluid but since we can't get it anymore he uses something called Freeze 12 which works OK but does...
- Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point) -ReplyHistorical mailing list - EMZThu, 20 Aug 1998 12:12:20 -0400On Thu, 20 Aug 1998, YauMan Chan wrote: (snip) California alone has more cars (with air > conditions) than all Asian countries combined. > Yau-Man...
- refrigerant update...Historical mailing list - John GladuMon, 12 May 1997 23:09:07 -0500...I'm tempted to just get the R12 and see what happens (but I haven't priced R12 in several months and it's...
- Re: A/C no place for DIY: was how much R134a in A/CHistorical mailing list - Derek DrewThu, 28 May 1998 22:03:19 -0400...That dries the system so much that you could almost reuse the >reciver drier. > Years ago when r12 was pennys a pound unstead of...
- Re: R134a in 88 Weekender.Historical mailing list - VWNut HawkThu, 3 Jul 2003 07:41:52 -0500...I did see some r134a cans that said don't mix or add to R12. The kit I bought said it had the right...
- AC Outlet temps ??Historical mailing list - Warren ChapmanWed, 5 Jul 2006 17:45:53 -0400...vents? If replying, please also include what refrigereant you are using? R12, R134A or some other? I'm getting 54-60 degrees with R134A...
- Re: Tips Requested Prior to R-134a Fill-upHistorical mailing list - Joe L.Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:33:10 -0400...Curious timeing on the prohibiting of R12 and the switch to R134 also. The sole maker of R12 was DuPont; another heavy contributor. Their...
- Re: AC System Repair/ UpgradeHistorical mailing list - Robert FisherMon, 20 Jul 2009 14:28:21 -0700...The OP said it most recently had R12. BTW, if it's leaking R12 it'll leak R134 or Freeze-12 even faster. Better...
- Re: R12 - FreonHistorical mailing list - Frank Terhaar-YonkersFri, 21 Aug 1998 06:15:46 -0400...a 25lb jug) but *no* conversion is required. - Frank >Subject: Re: R12 - Freon >To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM > >Yes, this is true, but the fact...
- Re: R134 conversionHistorical mailing list - Jeffrey SchwaiaWed, 29 Jun 2005 11:43:21 -0700...R134 conversion What should I flush my system with when changing from R12 to 134a? I'll be installing a new dryer at that...
- Re: a/c rebuild and retrofitted to R134aHistorical mailing list - Scooter061Wed, 13 May 1998 10:51:40 EDT...is a lot less costly to recharge with R134a, compared to R12. >> How often are you recharging? Did you replace any hoses during the...
- Re: HELP_ with stove dismantleing Please -info neededHistorical mailing list - Malcolm StebbinsSat, 5 Jun 2004 07:23:20 -0700...http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9909A&L=vanagon&P=R12789 --- No Name Available <Vanagonluvr@AOL.COM> wrote: > It looks like...
- Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning ConversionHistorical mailing list - Mike MillerWed, 16 Jun 2004 18:22:32 -0700It's the hot air from the politicians. On 6/16/04 1:59 PM, "Stan Wilder" <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote: > I have...
- Re: a/c - SorryHistorical mailing list - Robert FisherThu, 7 Sep 2006 14:46:09 -0700...think it is the fill valve > connection - back to that of R12. --snip-- I must've missed that about the valve- can you post...
- Re: few things you want to tell the tire changing monkeys at the
local tire s...Historical mailing list - Malcolm StebbinsSun, 24 Dec 2006 09:53:52 -0800...says 130 http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9807C&L=vanagon&P=R12242 says 75 http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin...
- Re: R134 conversion.Historical mailing list - Peter ZendzianTue, 1 Jun 1999 12:11:18 -1000...There is even lubricant that is compatible with both r12 and > r134. Local napa store has compressor seal kits and O rings. Sams discount...
- CARAT AIR CONDTIONINGHistorical mailing list - John RodgersMon, 1 Aug 2016 08:17:35 -0500...It currently is set up for the R12, but I need to upgrade to a R134a. I have to replace the receiver/dryer, and...
- Re: tiresHistorical mailing list - Kent ChristensenThu, 19 Apr 2012 10:18:05 -0600...has)? Kent Christensen Albuquerque '81 Vanagon (owned since '83) and '07 Merc GL320CDI and '08 BMW R1200RT, '02 BMW R1100S, '84 BMW R80G/S
- AC-conversionHistorical mailing list - Conrad SchimkeMon, 8 Jul 1996 20:44:00 +0100Hi folks, I want to convert my AC from R12 to ozon-friendly R134a, it is now needed in Germany. I need some information...
- Re: AC substitute fillersHistorical mailing list - Larry AlofsThu, 3 Aug 2006 12:07:09 -0500...Mike Miller wrote: >Volks, > >Is it OK to use one of the butane based working fluids, Duracool in this >case, in an R12a system...
- Re: R134 question / front shocksHistorical mailing list - harald_nancyFri, 13 Apr 2001 12:53:16 -0700...For different reasons, I converted back to R12. The R134a didn't seem to stay fully in the system very long, and the cooling...
- Re: help w/ charging/fiHistorical mailing list - Richard A JonesSun, 19 Jun 2005 20:30:22 -0600...With Ken Morgan, you cannot tell anything! But given the price difference 'twixt R12 and R134a, you can probably assume that you have been...
- Re: Cost of Freon R12Historical mailing list - Horace K. SawyerThu, 15 May 2003 07:09:17 -0400At 09:52 PM 5/14/03 -0600, Bob Stevens wrote: >"I wonder how much respect an R-12 smuggler gets in prison..." > > >I...
- Re: R12 or R134?Historical mailing list - Stan WilderTue, 29 Jul 2003 12:04:44 -0700So my theory is that there is a slow leak (6 months or so to fully discharge). ----------------------- Clip ---------------------- Time to take a poll ................. How...
- Re: Vanagon a/cHistorical mailing list - Dave McneelyTue, 24 May 2011 18:53:42 -0500...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
- Re: AC System Repair/ UpgradeHistorical mailing list - Kep KoeppelMon, 20 Jul 2009 15:21:31 -0700...I'm considering conversion to Freeze-12 rather than another R12 recharge (since the R12 will undoubtably leak away again, adding to the ozone...
- Re: Converting to R134Historical mailing list - mike bolandThu, 5 Jun 2003 00:14:01 -0500...me a reference to the procedure to convert my '91 from R12 >to R134. I know that i have seen this information more than...
- Re: Vanagon a/cHistorical mailing list - Michael RMon, 23 May 2011 13:30:00 -0700...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the >> cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
- Re: Replacing pressure A/C Pressure switch w/o losing FreonHistorical mailing list - David ClarksonTue, 10 Aug 2010 16:24:10 -0400...of R12 which would presumably include about 3 ozs. of oil for the compressor. I have always heard that only about 80% of the...
- AC tinkeringHistorical mailing list - Susan PowellTue, 30 May 2006 13:39:32 -0500...I got some Freeze -12 but wondering if it will mix with whatever old R12 is in the system or should I evacuate the...
- Re: R12 or R134?Historical mailing list - Bill MarshallWed, 30 Jul 2003 09:52:02 EDT----------------------- Clip ---------------------- Time to take a poll ................. How many 18 year old Vanagons and Westies still have a functioning A/C ? Stan Wilder ----------------------- Clip ---------------------- Well...
- Re: AC substitute fillersHistorical mailing list - Mike CollumThu, 3 Aug 2006 01:05:43 -0400...Mikel Mike Miller wrote: > Volks, > > Is it OK to use one of the butane based working fluids, Duracool in this > case, in an R12a...
- singin' the AC blues.....Historical mailing list - James FritzFri, 20 Jul 2001 11:03:30 -0500...I remembered from when I was an active list member that there was a lot of discussion about the R12 to R134A conversion. My...
- Re: AC FreonHistorical mailing list - Pat DooleyTue, 20 Feb 2001 23:16:52 -0500...AC Freon > > > Hi, > > Flammable? R12 is R12 no difference between auto or appliance. Its the > oil that will burn not the freon. > > Chris DeLong...
- A/C Repair (was Re: R134a in 88 Weekender.)Historical mailing list - OwenThu, 3 Jul 2003 09:43:28 -0500...A decent set of r134a / r12 gauges (MasterCool part no 66773) can be found on Ebay for 89.00 buy it now. r134a can...
- Re: Air Conditioner QuestionHistorical mailing list - Beckham, ChipThu, 21 Feb 2002 16:50:32 -0500...In the early years, it wasn't much Freon to get a clear sight glass and R12 used to be cheap. Not anymore. My...
- Re: Vanagon a/cHistorical mailing list - James FelderMon, 23 May 2011 16:23:22 -0500...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
- AC cutting out momentarilyHistorical mailing list - Michael HartWed, 10 Aug 2011 18:47:15 -0700...I rebuilt all hoses 2 years ago (kept to R12, new dryer, etc); system has blown cold ever since. Is this a sign of...
- Re: AC servicing woesHistorical mailing list - John RodgersFri, 5 Aug 2016 09:30:29 -0500Ah! Enlightenment!! The HFC152A I have used is a close match to R12, just slightly less dense. I didn't add any more oil...
- Re: improbable fixesHistorical mailing list - Mark DearingMon, 26 Nov 2012 08:58:23 -0500...http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0010E&L=vanagon&P=R12541
- Alternate A/C refrigerants?Historical mailing list - Jerry HudginsFri, 9 May 1997 17:52:33 -0400...s time to bite the bullet and switch the refrigerant from R12 to... something. Has anyone tried R134a yet? Are Eric Zeno's old...
- Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning ConversionHistorical mailing list - Mike CollumWed, 16 Jun 2004 12:35:31 -0400In my case, I replaced the receiver/dryer (was told this was a good idea as the old one would be contaminated with the...
- Re: AC head pressuresHistorical mailing list - Robert DaltonTue, 2 May 2000 13:21:00 -0700...I think you were smart to go with R12. My 80 Westy would cool great on some of the drop in replacement refrigerants, but...
- Re: air conditioningHistorical mailing list - Warren LailSat, 24 Jun 2006 16:57:19 -0500...It may be worth waiting till next week ,and get some r12. > Your system is designed of r12. 134a willwork, but not as well...
- Re: AC High Side - line leak - rubber hoseHistorical mailing list - Keith HughesThu, 19 Jun 2008 00:03:24 -0700...With 134a, in an R12 > conversion, I've been told to keep it at about 80% capacity, due to the > higher efficiency of 134a...
- Re: Vanagon ACHistorical mailing listTue, 13 Aug 1996 01:55:39 -0400...changeover parts necessary for the 134a conversion.There is also a new drop in r12 replacement out there which might be a cheaper alternative...
- Re: A/C questionHistorical mailing list - Stan WilderMon, 27 Jun 2005 12:03:02 -0500...The 134 O rings are compatible with R12, I'm thinking that the ester oil for the compressor will work with both so you...
- Re: R12 - FreonHistorical mailing list - Michael A. RadtkeFri, 21 Aug 1998 19:57:18 -0700Hello, Just to add another point on the curve. I am licensed to buy R-12 and I paid $17 a can (14 OZ...
- Re: A/C conversion to R134a??Historical mailing list - Richard A. JonesSat, 16 Jun 2001 08:53:15 -0600R134a requires "barrier hoses" and R12 didn't--or they didn't exist then. Seems like a conversion is doomed to leak R134a without...
- AC shop in Vancouver BC CanadaHistorical mailing list - Richard & Anita O'HalloranThu, 4 Jul 2002 00:51:52 -0700Can anyone recommend an Air Conditioning shop in Vancouver BC Canada?? I have a 90 Westy and I'm still running R12. Or maybe...
- Re: Red tek r-134 questionHistorical mailing list - Jeffrey SchwaiaMon, 7 Jul 2003 10:58:25 -0700...all my current vehicles that were designed for R12, still run R12. A/C repair is not brain surgery. Fix it right, fix it...
- Re: Vanagon a/cHistorical mailing list - Scott Daniel - TurbovansMon, 23 May 2011 13:56:42 -0700...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay > the cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
- Re: Do AC hoses HAVE to be replaced on a 134a conversion?Historical mailing list - Ken WilfordMon, 6 Jun 2011 13:09:09 -0400Gregg and List, Back when R134a first came out, a big deal was made about replacing all of the hoses when converting from R12...
- Freeze 12 A/C ConversionHistorical mailing list - R. HotchkissThu, 25 Apr 2002 14:45:55 -0400Last year there was disscussion about using Freeze 12 instead of R134a or R12. I thought that one of our vendors did this work...
- Re: R134a in 88 Weekender.Historical mailing list - John ConnollyThu, 3 Jul 2003 09:12:27 -0600...It's blowing VERY cold (I'm not using R12 or R134a). John Aircooled.Net Inc.
- Re: Westy stove sink how do you take it apart? Got it!Historical mailing list - Malcolm StebbinsWed, 21 Apr 2004 19:38:22 -0700...http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9909A&L=vanagon&P=R12789 M --- Doug in Calif <vanagon@ASTOUND.NET> wrote: > ask you...
- Re: WTB A/C gauges and vacuum pumpHistorical mailing list - William H. CollinsMon, 7 Dec 1998 14:20:26 EST...I will use a propane/butane mixture which is totally legal and >more effecient that R12 or R134A Maybe more efficent, but not legal...