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• Re: Catalytic Converter Choice
  Historical mailing list - Dug Smith
  Wed, 11 Jul 2012 19:46:00 -0700
  > Emico or Magnaflow? I have the CA spec Magnaflow, and I'm happy enough with it. toodle pip, -- Dug Smith | Terry Pratchett: It's...
• Re: Midas or not
  Historical mailing list - Trace Choulat
  Wed, 1 Nov 1995 19:35:40 -0500
  I used Midas for a catalytic converter on an '86 GL. In and out in < 2 hr. Cost: $220.00 vs. Dealer $900.00...
• Re: Winters in the van...
  Historical mailing list - David Brodbeck
  Sat, 16 Nov 2002 22:01:55 -0500
  On Fri, 15 Nov 2002, Stan Wilder wrote: > Having used both Coleman Gas Catalytic heaters and Alcohol Catalytic > heaters I've just got to...
• Re: Catalytic converter noise
  Historical mailing list - Robert Keezer
  Sat, 8 May 2004 08:39:23 -0700
  ...Upon closer inspection, it seems to be coming from the catalytic converter which, I assume, is original equipment. I have a 90 multivan with...
• Re: CA Smog Failed - 1985 1.9L
  Historical mailing list
  Mon, 7 Jul 2008 12:30:39 -0700
  After-market catalytic converters are junk. They're usually only good for 2 to 3 years before you'll need to replace to pass...
• Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter...
  Historical mailing list - anthony kimmons
  Tue, 6 Aug 2002 10:16:28 -0500
  ...I'll replace that catalytic > converter when it fails. I'll walk to the grocer, the doctor, the > barber, and work at home rather...
• Re: Catalytic Converter???? Anyone go without it???
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:36:01 -0400
  ...18, 2012 11:54 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Catalytic Converter???? Anyone go without it??? I went to change out my worn...
• Re: More Catalytic Converter questions
  Historical mailing list - Mike
  Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:58:08 -0400
  ...More Catalytic Converter questions > Just installed a new Bosal cat delivered from one of our listmember > suppliers. Adjusted the muffler supports to help everything...
• Re: push start - not?
  Historical mailing list - Jim Wheaton
  Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:33:24 -0800
  ...It is possible that extra hydrocarbons from unburnt fuel will build up in the catalytic converter and cause it to fail prematurely. Jim '91...
• Catalytic Converter
  Historical mailing list - Pat Callaghan
  Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:16:41 -0700
  Hi all, Anybody in the Portland area have a used cat for sale? I need one for my Federal Emission 82 aircooled westy. I...
• Exhaust install question -- sealant?
  Historical mailing list - Will Morris
  Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:30:00 -0400
  ...both manifolds and the j-pipe that connects them to the catalytic converter. Should I use a hi-temp sealant with any of the...
• Replacing Muffler
  Historical mailing list - tabe johnson
  Sun, 11 Jan 2004 13:25:27 -0500
  Hi All, My muffler is on the way out, as is the pipe just in front of the catalytic converter. Are the stock replacements...
• Re: My EB Breakdown Story
  Historical mailing list - Malcolm Stebbins
  Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:22:22 -0700
  ...M --- Jeff Stewart <fonman4277@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote: > Plugged catalytic converter!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around...
• Re: Catalytic convertor
  Historical mailing list - Keith Adams
  Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:37:43 -0700
  Short version: Catalytic convertors contain a catalyst, usually platinum beads, but may be rhodium or some other very pricy metal. This catalyst causes a...
• Re: O2 Sensor in Catalytic Converter - Correct model for each FI system ?
  Historical mailing list - The Bus Depot
  Mon, 25 Apr 2005 14:23:37 -0400
  > Bus Depot and VolksCafe sell only one catalytic converter and > their search engines return that part when you search either > for a Digijet or...
• Re: 2.1 Ernst Muffler Design and Failing Catalytic Converter
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Mon, 3 Jul 2017 02:12:20 +0000
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• Diesels have a catalytic converter?
  Historical mailing list - Chris Mills
  Mon, 1 Apr 2002 12:56:08 -0600
  Really? Chris M. <Busbodger - "TEAM SLOWPOKE"> Cookeville, Tennessee ICQ# 5944649 scm9985@tntech.edu '78 VW Westfalia (67 HP -> that is...67 Hamster Power) '65...
• Nevermind on the Coleman heater...
  Historical mailing list - Parker Beeson
  Sun, 10 Oct 2004 13:51:58 -0600
  ...Just found a bunch of stuff on the Catalytic Heaters and have determined that I'm probably way better off saving up some money...
• Re: Wesipes - pizza in the engine box!
  Historical mailing list - Marshall Ruskin
  Tue, 2 Feb 1999 21:55:54 -0600
  ...Did have one dude who suggested the catalytic >converter would probably be the hottest source of heat to harness. >Perhaps someone can come up...
• Re: generators again-Honda EU1000
  Historical mailing list - Mike S
  Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:59:28 -0500
  ...Look into a propane or kerosene catalytic, if heat is a concern. A 110V electric heater will typically have 750/1500W (2500/5000 BTU...
• Emissions Inspection 1980 Vanagon Westfalia
  Historical mailing list - David Rankin
  Mon, 4 Dec 95 17:48:03 -0500
  ...The replacement system appears to have the muffler attached to the heat exchangers - no Catalytic Converter . I am concerned about this because I live...
• Re: Catalytic Converter???? Anyone go without it???
  Historical mailing list - The Bus Depot
  Sun, 18 Mar 2012 15:27:20 -0400
  > PLEASE replace it ~ they are not all that expensive We sell a quality Bosal one for only $99: http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber...
• Re: Catalytic heaters
  Historical mailing list - Susan Cote
  Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:24:28 -0500
  Thank you John. What you descibe is the heater I have in my 1985 Vanagon. Mine doesn't work. Can you tell where the...
• exhaust system
  Historical mailing list - jeffg
  Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:15:21 -0400
  ...my exhaust system is gone..so my mechanic wants $1200 to replace the whole thing..including catalytic converter, muffler and all pipes...busdepot has...
• Fiberglass Exhaust Wrap - Cooler engine compartment
  Historical mailing list - Chris S
  Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:26:24 -0400
  Is anyone here using fiberglass exhaust wrap? Any comments and/or experiences? I'm thinking of wrapping the entire exhaust up to the catalytic...
• Re: Catalytic converter comparisons
  Historical mailing list - mark drillock
  Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:59:18 -0700
  ...wrote: >> There has been quite a bit of talk here lately about oxygen sensors; >> how about a comparison to a related item- catalytic converters? >> >>
• Re: Revisiting the Catalytic Converter...(NVC)
  Historical mailing list - Dylan Spurgin
  Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:55:53 -0500
  ...Revisiting the Catalytic Converter... >>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 08:33:00 -0700 >> >>I didn't say I didn't want to preserve it...
• Re: Catalytic Converter Failure
  Historical mailing list
  Tue, 6 Dec 1994 16:07:38 -0800
  Mike, Check your O2 sensor- my middle brother's Rabbit had its Catalyst go China Syndrome after the O2 sensor failed. O2 sensor fails...
• Catalytic converters
  Historical mailing list - Evan Mac Donald
  Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:23:10 -0700
  Inquiring minds want to know! Can the converter from an '80 air-cooled 2.0l be used on an '85 1.9l? The mass...
• Re: Aftermarket propane heater?
  Historical mailing list - Shannon Mitchell
  Thu, 2 Oct 2003 22:08:45 -0400
  ...Olympian Catalytic Heater, Wave 3 http://www.rvsupplywarehouse.com/product/detail.cfm?USID=611273766&PRODUCT_I D=222 Shannon 91 Vanagon -----Original Message----- From...
• Re: Westy Fridge Endurance
  Historical mailing list - jimt
  Sat, 22 Jan 2005 03:03:13 -0700
  ...The tap is for a catalytic heater and there is a > quick release hose plus manual shut-off. I use this for the catalytic...
• got to get ready for emission testing
  Historical mailing list - roger sisler
  Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:42:05 -0800
  ...it.The catalytic convertor,charcoal canister, and fuel injection system, is about it.Since the 70's,other cars have had catalytic converter,pvc...
• Catalytic Converter Failure
  Historical mailing list - MICHAEL R. PLICKYS
  05 Dec 94 22:17:02 EST
  ...I had heard a slight "rattle" in the exhaust system during the week and decided to check the muffler and catalytic converter. I rapped...
• Furnace in VW Camper
  Historical mailing list
  Sat, 03 Feb 96 12:30:21 MST
  Who has the web page with the catalytic furnace mounted in a westfalia? Does anyone know the address for this page? *********************** *Alan Beck * *Amateur...
• Re: Furnace in VW Camper
  Historical mailing list - Steve Johnson
  Sun, 4 Feb 1996 06:53:07 -0800 (PST)
  So Alan Beck says: > > Who has the web page with the catalytic furnace mounted in a > westfalia? > > Does anyone know the address for this...
• Re: Propex alternative?
  Historical mailing list - Jonce Fancher
  Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:29:10 -0400
  Hi Tom Which Catalytic heater do you have?? Jonce >One thing I learned during my heating experiments in the last 2 weeks is that...
• Re: More Mr heater..
  Historical mailing list - Alistair Bell
  Thu, 22 Dec 2016 08:27:32 -0800
  ...Heater, and others, catalytic propane, create a lot of > water vapour in a Vanagon. That seems to be fake news, or perhaps an > exaggeration...
• Re: mini review of Ecoque grill (van camping grill/bbq)
  Historical mailing list - Alistair Bell
  Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:33:25 -0800
  ...You know, that idea of a catalytic burner in it is not too crazy. One of those 1 lb bottle heater things might fit...
• Re: Dilemma(kinda long)
  Historical mailing list
  Tue, 5 Dec 1995 15:17:02 -0600
  At 11:01 AM 12/5/95 -0600, PWIES@loyola.edu wrote: >In 79, all busses came from the factory with a catalytic converter...
• O2 senor operation!
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Wed, 16 May 2012 16:53:23 -0400
  ...The 3 way catalytic converter is so named as it is designed to reduce hydrocarbons, (HC), carbon monoxide,(CO) and oxides of nitrogen, (NOx...
• '80 Vanagon exhaust system
  Historical mailing list - Brian M. Miller
  Fri, 15 Mar 96 10:49:59 PST
  ...The van has a catalytic converter and my city (Spokane, WA) has stringent emissions testing. The van presently does pass emissions testing even though...
• removing bolts
  Historical mailing list - Sonia L Johnson
  Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:42:58 -0700
  Hi all, I'm trying to remove my catalytic convertor, but most of the bolts are so rusted and corroded that I can't...
• Re: poor gas mileage
  Historical mailing list - Roger Sisler
  Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:07:54 -0500
  ...good hot spark? Fuel injector cleaner in the tank? Clutch slippping? Catalytic converter plugged? Does it overheat?Brakes dragging? vacuum advance hose disconnected? Weak...
• Catalytic converter
  Historical mailing list - Rob
  Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:35:38 -0700
  I'm wondering if my cat is blocked. I have a cat from a 1.9 in front of me and am looking inside...
• muffler for 88 WBX
  Historical mailing list - Warren.K.Lail-1
  Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:39:34 -0600
  ...How did I miss them when I had the engine out??? So now I have the muffler and catalytic converter off. I purchased a...
• Running without a cat...?
  Historical mailing list - Jim Johnston
  Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:06:46 -0400
  ...It turns out, my catalytic converter has nothing left. It's completely empty. The previous owner had a S & S Exhaust system put on...
• Re: Vanagon engine noise - collapsed lifter?
  Historical mailing list - Michael Snow
  Sat, 3 Dec 2011 06:34:05 -0500
  ...Zinc will damage the catalytic converter, and this damage is the sole reason for the reduction of ZDDP in the current crop of oils...
• Re: Catalytic Heaters.
  Historical mailing list - Malcolm Holser
  Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:51:39 -0800
  ...Can you explain how this can be so? How does an >unvented catalytic heater (vented with windows open a crack) create more >water vapor...
• Re: 2.1 Ernst Muffler Design and Failing Catalytic Converter
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Mon, 3 Jul 2017 03:14:02 +0000
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• which exhaust gasket to use?
  Historical mailing list - Mark McCulley
  Fri, 25 Jul 2014 13:36:44 -0700
  What is the correct type of gasket to use between the J-pipe and the catalytic converter? My J-pipe has a flared end...
• Re: Fw: Wave 3 Heater
  Historical mailing list - Felder
  Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:10:20 -0800
  ...various portables - safety issues > I have decided on the Olympian Catalytic Wave 3. The lowest price I > can find is from rvcatalog.com at...
• Re: Catalytic converter comparisons
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Thu, 31 Jul 2014 18:42:42 -0400
  ...2014 7:53 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Catalytic converter comparisons Thanks for the feedback. Based on price, and reputation, I...
• Re: WTB new factory 2.1 Catalytic converter
  Historical mailing list - The Bus Depot
  Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:04:41 -0400
  > Hello- is there anyone selling OEM catalytic converters besides > the dealer and if so, who is and how much are they? I have just...
• Dilemma(kinda long)
  Historical mailing list
  Tue, 05 Dec 1995 11:57:03 -0500 (EST)
  In 79, all busses came from the factory with a catalytic converter. Jump ahead to 1993. The PO of my bus gets the bus...
• Space Heaters, Propane Stoves etc
  Historical mailing list - Al Knoll
  Sun, 2 Feb 97 18:15:45 PST
  I have a portable propane catalytic mfg by Coleman in the 60s 4800BTU and will keep the frost off yer punkin. These use the...
• How big is your cat?
  Historical mailing list - Anonymous Digest
  Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:30:24 -0700
  I am wondering if anyone would measure and a pass along, the length of the catalytic converter? I am curious as to how far...
• Stubborn oxygen sensor
  Historical mailing list - mordo
  Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:50:54 -0500
  I'm replacing the catalytic converter on my Carat and not suprisingly, the 02 sensor is thoroughly stuck with corrosion. Generous application of PB...
• Re: Catalytic converter noise
  Historical mailing list - Don in Phoenix
  Sat, 8 May 2004 09:47:43 -0700
  ...Upon closer inspection, it seems to be coming from the catalytic > converter which, I assume, is original equipment. I have a 90 multivan with...
• catalytic heaters
  Historical mailing list - john silverman
  Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:48:42 -0700
  ...Many folks have successfully used the Plat Cat VENTED catalytic heater, by Thermal Systems, out of Washington (I believe Olympia). We bought one, and...
• Re: Where is a good place to get an inexpensive catalytic converter for an '87 2.1L Van?
  Historical mailing list - The Bus Depot
  Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:40:23 -0400
  If this is not for use in California, we have a nice quality Bosal for $119. That's probably the best price around for...