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• 91 Vanagon A/C
  Historical mailing list - Herbert A Harmison
  Mon, 26 May 2008 21:43:37 -0500
  ...I am still using R12 with great results so long as the system is fully charged but the leaks are a problem. I am...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - Michael R
  Mon, 23 May 2011 13:41:32 -0700
  ...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the >> cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
• Re: Adding freon
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Sun, 4 Apr 2010 08:56:12 -0500
  ---- David Beierl <dbeierl@attglobal.net> wrote: > Personally I'd recommend sticking with the R12 (and replacing the > compressor seals). The loss over say ten...
• R12 - Freon
  Historical mailing list
  Thu, 20 Aug 1998 12:22:47 CDT
  Sorry folks, but the patent on Freon ran out long ago, sometime before 1974. At NASA-Langley we had a wind tunnel that flowed...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - Samuel Scott
  Wed, 14 May 2003 11:01:32 EDT
  In a message dated 5/14/2003 9:40:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hotch@HOTSTRINGS-INC.COM writes: > Try to find a place...
• How to convert to 134?
  Historical mailing list - Jim Felder
  Tue, 6 May 2008 11:20:54 -0500
  Does anyone know of a complete set of instructions for converting to 134 from R12? I'm talking complete, like where to get any...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Tue, 24 May 2011 10:32:58 -0500
  ...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
• Re: Adding freon
  Historical mailing list - Jim Felder
  Sat, 3 Apr 2010 20:08:43 -0500
  ...I have converted six cars to R124A now and no complaints, no problems. Email me if you want details, but I just used what...
• A/C conversion to R134a?????
  Historical mailing list - Jutta & Christian Knust
  Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:01:41 +0200
  ...I�d like to convert the system to 134a instead of using ozone-killing R12 and he would do that after flushing the system...
• Re: R-12 alternatives
  Historical mailing list - Doug in Calif
  Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:43:00 -0700
  ...After a lot of consideration I decided to > stick with R12 Freon in the system. It is set up for that. All > components were...
• Any Recommended A/C specialists in Vancouver BC ??
  Historical mailing list - Richard & Anita O'Halloran
  Sun, 23 Jun 2002 02:31:39 -0700
  The A/C (still using R12) in my 90 Westy no longer works. It makes all the right noises but no cool or cold...
• Re: Westy: Getting to the cookstove burner valve?
  Historical mailing list - Malcolm Stebbins
  Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:20:19 -0800
  ...http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9909A&L=vanagon&P=R12789 or http://tinyurl.com/df698 --- Michael Diehr <md03@XOCHI.COM...
• Propane fired airconditioning
  Historical mailing list - Sharon Mendonca
  Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:11:31 -0700
  ...He said that originally AC units were propane then went to R12 and that didn't work too well for the environment and then...
• Re: 89 syncro westy ac question
  Historical mailing list - Mark Dorm
  Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:45:18 PDT
  Are you an ac technician? Were do you work??? > > >Mick, > >R12 does not "go bad" like beer going flat or clothing going out of...
• AC converted to 134 - now what?
  Historical mailing list - Keith Ovregaard
  Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:11:51 -0700
  ...What a great resource for Vanagon-addicted volks like me! Speaking of the AC challenges of Vanagons, I recently switched from R12 to 134A...
• Re: Replacing pressure A/C Pressure switch w/o losing Freon
  Historical mailing list - Mike S
  Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:57:17 -0400
  At 04:24 PM 8/10/2010, David Clarkson wrote... >I have always heard that only about 80% of the volume for R12 is...
• Re: Still keeping cool in your VW
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:33:08 -0600
  ...faster!! John Rodgers 88 GL Driver - decid'n twix't renewing R12 freon or changing to R-134A John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Miller...
• Re: freeze 12
  Historical mailing list - Jeffrey Schwaia
  Mon, 3 Jul 2006 11:42:42 -0700
  ...The simple fact is that we are stuck with R134a because the large corporations that lobby the EPA were able to get R12 off...
• Re: AC Receiver Drier 253260633"D" vs 253260633"E"
  Historical mailing list - Roger Sisler
  Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:49:22 -0400
  ...It will combine with r12 to make phosgene gas. When charging a system, or just topping off with a refrigerant, purge your hoses first...
• Re: I have questions about converting the AC system to 134a
  Historical mailing list - Eric Zeno
  Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:21:32 -0400
  ...I drained the compressor of the old R12 oil, but in your case you will not have to do this. I also vacuumed down...
• Re: R12 - Freon
  Historical mailing list - EMZ
  Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:30:49 -0400
  ...a 25lb jug) but *no* conversion is required. > > - Frank > > >Subject: Re: R12 - Freon > >To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM > > > >Yes, this is true, but the fact...
• Re: vanagon Digest - 29 Jul 2003 - Special issue (#2003-772)
  Historical mailing list - don spence
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:09:01 -0600
  ...2003, at 04:54 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote: > Subject: Re: R12 or R134? > > So my theory is that there is a slow leak...
• Freeze 12 is 80 percent 134a
  Historical mailing list - Doug in Calif
  Thu, 17 Jun 2004 07:03:16 -0700
  ...It is also not a good idea to mix 134 with R12 Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Norville To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent...
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Mike Miller
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:35:36 -0700
  Had it done. Pricey. Receiver/dryer new and a complete system flush at least that's what they said they had to do on...
• Re: 134 conversion
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:18:50 -0600
  ...Yes R12 is approximately 14% more efficient than 134. Auto-makers response to this was simply to spin the compressor faster to compensate and...
• Re: AC 134a refrigerant leak down
  Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
  Tue, 7 May 2013 19:50:51 -0500
  Was it holding R12 fine? It could be the seal in the front of the compressor - that seal depends on a oil film to...
• Re: AC Question
  Historical mailing list - Jim Felder
  Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:23:25 -0500
  ...The R134 does find leaks that R12 doesn't, but you can put in a refrigerant with some sealing capacity if that is the...
• AC Question
  Historical mailing list - Jim Ogul
  Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:58:21 -0400
  ...It has R12 in it. A local shop tells me that what they do is evacuate the system and put in R134 and if...
• Re: A/C freon R-134A upgrade...
  Historical mailing list - Ron Lussier
  Tue, 01 Apr 1997 22:25:54 -0800
  At 12:05 AM 4/2/97 -0600, GARTH WOOLSTENHULME wrote: >The price for R-134A was also the same as R12 last summer...
• Re: AC converted to 134
  Historical mailing list - Larry Alofs
  Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:14:49 -0500
  ...Also the AC has been out for a few years > (although it cooled OK, just barely, in the past using the old R12 on...
• Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
  Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
  Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:30:35 -0500
  ...Also consider that no more R12 is being manufactured and that all existing R12 Freon will be released to the atmosphere, it's a...
• Re: any auto AC enthusiasts out there? compressor oil capacity? NVC
  Historical mailing list - Stuart MacMillan
  Tue, 3 Jun 2008 14:41:42 -0700
  ...Your Vanagon uses R12, which was phased out in 1995. You'll have to go to a shop for that, or you will burn...
• What Price to Diagnose A/C leaks?
  Historical mailing list - Marshall Ruskin
  Thu, 27 May 1999 19:41:38 -0500
  ...However, the R12 is $50 a pound! Yikes! Is this reasonable, all in all, or should I do something else? Anybody go to Crappy...
• Re: Front AC System Failures - European Cooler Air
  Historical mailing list - Loren A. Busch
  Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:58:15 -0800
  RE: R12 etc. Even though I will probably switch to Freeze 12 or Duracool or some such next spring, a word of caution: MOST...
• Re: dometic pilot goes out when thermostat turned up
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:42:14 -0400
  ...BTW there is no R12 or any other fluorocarbon based refrigerant in the Westy fridge. It is an absorption system that uses heat, gravity...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - J Stewart
  Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:02:03 +0000
  ...the > compressor Bus Depot just sold me as > > compatible with either R12 or R134A isn't-the label on it says > > "mineral > > oil" I...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - JRodgers
  Sun, 8 Jul 2012 20:33:20 -0500
  ...John On 7/8/2012 8:05 PM, Dave Mcneely wrote: > If your vehicle has not been converted, it is R12.
• Re: AC conversion
  Historical mailing list - Jeff Schwaia
  Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:11:44 -0700
  Around here, brand new R12 is more readily available now than 5 or 10 years ago. In my experience, the Vanagon AC runs substantially...
• ?? A/C maintenance prior to re-charge ??
  Historical mailing list - Carl Hansen
  Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:30:19 -0500
  ...I haven't used the air for several years because I thought the R12 had all leaked out because of a faulty high pressure...
• Re: R134 conversion
  Historical mailing list - Daryl Christensen
  Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:49:52 -0700
  ...R134 conversion > Hi All, > > I had the AC on my 89 Westy converted from R12 to R134 four years ago. > Each year since the...
• 82 vw bus needing home
  Historical mailing list - Hugh James Passerini
  Sat, 31 May 1997 09:23:26 -0400
  ...Air condistioning system holding r12 charge when the motors running you can look forward to being cool. Color Yellow with cream roof. My wife...
• Re: Freeze 12?
  Historical mailing list - David Beierl
  Fri, 2 Jun 2000 09:24:18 -0400
  The FAA seems to believe that it's Difloramonochlorothane which sounds to me like a misspelling of difluoromonochloroethane or -methane (R12 is dichlorodifluoromethane) -- but...
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - David Brodbeck
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 20:20:40 -0400
  On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:59:53 -0500, Stan Wilder wrote > I have brand new everything and the biggest and most efficient condenser...
• Re: AC 134a refrigerant leak down
  Historical mailing list - Rob
  Wed, 8 May 2013 23:05:17 -0500
  ...But in fact - R12 actually performed better - but >there are a few refrigerants out there that very closely match the >R12. Freeze12 is one...
• Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
  Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
  Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:55:59 -0500
  ...Most AC shops dumped or upgraded their R12 recovery systems long ago, when the R12 to R134 conversion business finally went away. You will...
• Re: A/C Freon
  Historical mailing list - Zeitgeist
  Sat, 4 Oct 2008 12:00:34 -0700
  Propane and Isobutane combine rather nicely with R12...at least they have for over two years in my van. My Mercedes runs fairly well...
• Re: AC 134a refrigerant leak down
  Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
  Tue, 7 May 2013 21:23:43 -0500
  ...AC 134a refrigerant leak down If I remember correctly, R134 refrigerant is a smaller molecule, and hence more easily gets past seals than R12...
• Re: AC Question
  Historical mailing list - Jim Felder
  Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:06:32 -0500
  ...R134 is not quite as efficient as R12, so it won't be quite as cold, but neither will the planet be quite as...
• Re: Broken Vanagon slider handles
  Historical mailing list
  Thu, 22 Jun 95 10:56:41 EDT
  ...was always a sore point, it did seem to periodically loose R12, plus was never ever sufficient to cool the darkly painted (Wolfram grey...
• Re: Vacuum Pump A/c Manifold Recommendations?
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:24:17 -0400
  ...I was lucky in getting a good one (for R12). Most of the ones offered in local stores are cheap plastic and won't...
• Re: Alternative to the high price of R-12
  Historical mailing list - Eric Zeno
  Fri, 12 Sep 2003 07:36:36 -0400
  ...This kit worked better than many R12 systems. ERic Jeff Stewart wrote: >I recently (6-8 weeks ago) converted the air in my '84...
• Re: a/c problems; vw mech in colorado?
  Historical mailing list - Joachim Beek
  Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:21:29 -0500
  ...I called my VW and they said R12 freon was going for > $59.00/pound. A complete fill for my van would run around...
• Re: [vanagon] Freon
  Historical mailing list - vanagon
  Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:30:07 -0800
  ...I also understand from the classic hot rod community that there is a direct type replacement for R12 called R-freeze or similar that...
• Re: Avoid Freeze 12!
  Historical mailing list - Steven Johnson
  Sun, 2 Jul 2006 04:44:49 -0700
  ...It works pretty much as well as R12. --- Maggie Dew <wildebus@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > From John Rodgers: > > "Apparently there is a very suitable substitute...
• Re: Sanden compressors
  Historical mailing list - Don Record
  Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:18:06 EDT
  ...The reason I ask is that I am opting to buy a new compressor and still operate with the R12 until further problems (hopefully...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Mike Collum
  Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:45:29 -0400
  <snip> How many 18 year old Vanagons and Westies still have a functioning A/C ? <snip> The A/C on my '85 Westy was...
• Re: AC Freon
  Historical mailing list - eckie1
  Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:35:47 -0600
  ...AC Freon > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Flammable? R12 is R12 no difference between auto or appliance. Its the > > oil that will burn not the freon. > > > > Chris DeLong...
• Re: AC servicing woes
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Fri, 5 Aug 2016 09:29:44 -0400
  ...When are vans where built R12 with mineral oil was still the prevalent standard. No need to mention other options. As for the quantity...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Jay L Snyder
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:31:03 -0400
  ...gerry.vanagon.com> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM cc: Subject: Re: R12 or R134? So my theory is that there is a slow leak...
• Re: A/C question
  Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
  Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:28:30 -0700
  ...transition to R134 later. > The 134 O rings are compatible with R12, I'm thinking that the ester oil for > the compressor will work...