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• Re: singin' the AC blues.....
  Historical mailing list - Jim Henry
  Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:14:39 -0400
  ...The evacuation and refill with R134 was $100, I can only be glad it was not R12 at $75/lb. Good luck. Jim Henry...
• Re: AC converted to 134
  Historical mailing list - Keith Hughes
  Wed, 20 Jul 2005 10:55:46 -0700
  ...Increase condenser capacity - R134A requires more capacity than R12, and the Vanagon's undersized for R12. Either install a larger and/or more efficient...
• Re: 89 syncro westy ac question
  Historical mailing list - John
  Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:43:49 -0400
  ...Can freon go bad over time, > Whadayathinkabouthat? > > Mick Kalber Mick, R12 does not "go bad" like beer going flat or clothing going out of...
• Re: Air Conditioner Question
  Historical mailing list - Jeff Strickrott
  Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:22:13 -0500
  I am new to AC issues and have an old R12 system that I am contemplating changing over to R134. Is it mandatory to...
• Re: freeze 12
  Historical mailing list - Jeffrey Schwaia
  Mon, 3 Jul 2006 14:15:24 -0700
  Robert, Please email me a link for that patent info on R12. I've been told the patent story by several AC gurus but...
• Re: New AC Thing
  Historical mailing list - Eric Zeno
  Wed, 18 Jun 2003 07:20:34 -0400
  ...I have both R12 and R134a recycling machines. Every system I service has to be tested for its contents first. So far I've...
• Re: Propane fired airconditioning
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:18:22 -0400
  Of course propane (and other hydrocarbon refrigerants) operate at a LOWER pressure than R12 (and MUCH lower than R134), so even with added heating...
• Re: air conditioning
  Historical mailing list - Roger Sisler
  Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:31:26 -0400
  ...Used a/c hoses that once had r12 in them, act as barrier hoses. The oil that is left inside , blocks most of the...
• Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)
  Historical mailing list - Bryan Feddish
  Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:58:54 -0400
  > The rumor that has been going around about the whole R-12 ban > issue is this. > Dupont holds the patent on the refrigerant R...
• Re: Do-it-yourself conversion of air conditioning to 134a questio n
  Historical mailing list - Mark Rissman
  Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:57:43 -0800
  ...Have the R12 extracted. Put new fitting on. Put R134a in. Put oil in. Put more R134a in. Done. I changed nothing. This is...
• Re: AC Conversion
  Historical mailing list - mike miller
  Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:28:23 -0700
  ...I recently ordered the R12-134a conversion kit from the Bus Depot. I then read that the conversion will fail because the Vanagons AC...
• Re: R-134A retrofit (JC WHIPME content)
  Historical mailing list - Darrell Boehler
  Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:57:47 -0500
  ----------------- Hi Don, The switch from r12 to r134a is a good idea especially if you have lost the r12. A friend of mine and...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Mon, 23 May 2011 21:06:43 -0500
  ...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
• Re: Fwd: 89 syncro westy ac question
  Historical mailing list - CHRIS STANN
  Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:49:52 -0500
  R12 and R134 will burn when exposed to flame. The resulting gasses are poisonous and can kill you. Surprised? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Smith...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - BenT Syncro
  Mon, 23 May 2011 13:54:42 -0700
  ...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay the > >> cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Bob Stevens
  Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:00:50 -0600
  And my '87 Syncro Westy is blowin' cold in Salt Lake's 100' temps these days. Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;>) cool, man. Bob Stevens http://groups.msn...
• Made it to Boise [little vanagon content]
  Historical mailing list - Jeremy Speer
  Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:07:01 -0600
  ...Best, -jspeer '89 Westy GL '05 R1200GS
• Re: R134 conversion
  Historical mailing list - Robert Cardo
  Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:12:12 -0500
  ...style and just filled it up with 134 instead of the R12 it came with....no oil change, no evac, just filled it.. Worked...
• Re: A/C Repair (was Re: R134a in 88 Weekender.)
  Historical mailing list - TJ Hannink
  Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:34:28 -0700
  --- Owen <olists@THEBRANDS.ORG> wrote: > There seems to be huge controversy over r12a vs > 134a. From what I have read > of Red Tek and...
• Re: 134 conversion
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:32:53 -0600
  ...for less that the R12 refrigerant charge. > > I was quoted $175.00 to recharge my Porsche system with R12 and that is > > about the...
• QUAD ROUND HEADLITE GRILLES wasRe: Vanagon in South-Africa
  Historical mailing list - JordanVw
  Mon, 20 Apr 1998 19:29:08 EDT
  ...grill will set you back R282 (US$51) and the lights R126 (US$22,91)each, I think this is a bit expensive. >> expensive...
• Re: New AC Thing
  Historical mailing list - David Brodbeck
  Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:03:25 -0400
  ...He also thinks it's highly suspicious that R12 was outlawed right about when the patent on it was about to expire. I have...
• Re: 134 conversion
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:36:14 -0600
  ...If you will take your R12 license and calculate the actual first class repair of a leaky or non functioning Vanagon system you'll...
• Re: AC Conversion: R12 to R134A
  Historical mailing list - Mark & Laura Magee
  Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:23:30 -0500
  ...RR.COM> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: AC Conversion: R12 to R134A > > Date: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:10 PM > > > > Remove your...
• Report on R12a - RedTec Refrigerant.
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:26:14 -0700
  There isn't going to be a report from me on R12a Red Tec refrigerant. I brought the system down to holding 15 inches...
• Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
  Historical mailing list - David McNeely
  Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:56:23 -0700
  ...Most AC shops dumped or upgraded their R12 > recovery systems long ago, when the R12 to R134 conversion business finally > went away. > > You will...
• Re: AC 134a refrigerant leak down
  Historical mailing list - Ryan Press
  Thu, 9 May 2013 09:37:12 -0700
  ...Sure the average pressure with R134a will be a bit higher (maybe 10%), but because the R12 pressure switches are still in place the...
• Re: [Syncro] Re:[Q] What is the value for the std. required R12 fill ?
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Thu, 27 Jul 2006 11:19:10 -0400
  ...required R12 fill ? > again head pressures are a function of temperature...they vary as the > temperature does outside. if you look at the gauges...
• Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
  Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
  Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:24:17 -0500
  ...And also let me know if you are interested in selling the R12. I have the right certification to buy it from you. Thanks...
• Re: AC Receiver Drier 253260633"D" vs 253260633"E"
  Historical mailing list - Larry Alofs
  Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:35:56 -0500
  ...It will combine with r12 to make phosgene gas. > > When charging a system, or just topping off with a refrigerant, purge your >hoses first...
• Re: freeze 12
  Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
  Mon, 3 Jul 2006 13:23:02 -0700
  ...The simple fact is that we are stuck with R134a because the > large corporations that lobby the EPA were able to get R12 off...
• Re: a/c - Sorry
  Historical mailing list - Keith Hughes
  Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:13:55 -0700
  ...a/c - Sorry > >In reading the rules, here is my understanding of this AC thing. > >You can ONLY convert to 134a directly from R12...
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:26:28 -0500
  On Jun 16, 2004, at 11:35 AM, Mike Miller wrote: > > Since the AC is marginal for our big boxes with R 12, it...
• Re: R134a in 88 Weekender.
  Historical mailing list - Eric Zeno
  Thu, 3 Jul 2003 10:44:49 -0400
  ...Auto, or Wal-mart, has something special in it that makes R12, and R134a oils compatable. I've converted a Jetta, AC system. I...
• Re: [Syncro] R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - David Marshall
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 09:09:30 -0700
  ...vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com; Syncro@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Syncro] R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion Anyone done one of these? What does it entail...
• Re: singin' the AC blues.....
  Historical mailing list - Karl Wolz
  Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:34:04 -0700
  ...The evacuation and refill with R134 was $100, I can only be glad it was not R12 at $75/lb. > > Good luck. > > Jim Henry...
• Re: Aircon Retrofit?
  Historical mailing list - Graham Challis
  Sun, 16 May 1999 14:19:52 -0700
  ...converting to R124a Before you do, check out ... http://www.autofrost.com/ Have no personal experience with R406 and hope to hear from someone...
• Re: dometic pilot goes out when thermostat turned up
  Historical mailing list - Roger Sisler
  Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:45:34 -0400
  ...Maybe the r12 has leaked out.This is probably your problem. Next, remove the frig.Clean the orifice with a cleaner then rinse with...
• Re: Missing Exhaust bolts
  Historical mailing list - Keith Adams
  Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:08:21 GMT
  ...http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0012B&L=vanagon&P=R12840 Keith Adams Calgary, AB, CA >Stainless steel is not stronger...
• Re: 134 conversion
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:10:32 -0600
  ...134 conversion >> >> >>Yes Jeffrey! Even Ray Charles could see that. >>Yes R12 is approximately 14% more efficient than 134. >>Auto-makers response to this...
• Re: AC High Side - line leak - rubber hose
  Historical mailing list - Todd Last
  Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:29:32 +0000
  ...The original type of hose was designed during the time period when R12 refrigerant was inexpensive and it's affect on the ozone level...
• R134 conversion.
  Historical mailing list - Budding Rose
  Mon, 31 May 1999 10:35:04 -0400
  ...and emptied itself over a period of 6 months or so. R12 & R134 are completely compatible. No other parts need be changed. The conversion...
• Re: AC Freon
  Historical mailing list - Aaron Gibson
  Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:36:17 -0500
  Hi, Flammable? R12 is R12 no difference between auto or appliance. Its the oil that will burn not the freon. Chris DeLong wrote: > > Just...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Sun, 8 Jul 2012 20:05:29 -0500
  ...The fittings for R134a and R12 are different of course. If your vehicle has not been converted, it is R12. mcneely ---- Zeitgeist <gruengeist@GMAIL...
• Re: [Syncro] Re:[Q] What is the value for the std. required R12 fill ?
  Historical mailing list - robert shawn feller
  Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:54:07 -0400
  ...you have to give a ambient temperature before you know 100% but 80lbs is a good estimate for R12. look at my website under...
• Re: AC Hose repair
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:55:52 -0600
  ...When switching R12 to R134a, the entire system should be flushed, and new lubricating oil specific to R134a should be installed. Of course, all...
• Re: a/c problems; vw mech in colorado?
  Historical mailing list - Gary Edwards
  Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:03:28 EDT
  ...I called my VW and they said R12 freon was going for $59.00/pound. A complete fill for my van would run around...
• AC converted to 134 - now what?
  Historical mailing list - Jay Roth
  Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:09:14 -0500
  ...Today I picked up the Westy from the shop from having the factory R12 AC converted to R134. Although the compressor is noisy, the...
• FW: Vaccuum Pump rental
  Historical mailing list - Carrington, Tom
  Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:16:47 -0400
  ...is it legal to do this myself, I already blew out all of my R12 on the highway when the compressor blew. Hotch Philly...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:31:08 -0500
  Stan, aren't you and a couple of other list members trying out a couple of alternative refrigerants other than R134 or Freeze12??? Something...
• Re: AC Converting/Procedure/R134A
  Historical mailing list - Richard A Jones
  Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:11:58 -0600
  ...It works for R12 which is a single chemical compound, but not for R134a and others which are blends. The R/D on my...
• Re: 134 conversion
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:29:43 -0600
  ...Normally handled by those that sell R12 refrigerants. From what I understand its about a three day school to learn how to properly use...
• Re: Adding freon
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Sat, 3 Apr 2010 19:54:26 -0500
  ...Each shop advised me to simply refill with R12. I won't do that, and so have chosen to do without AC. It does...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - Dan Erlandson
  Wed, 14 May 2003 21:42:00 -0400
  Just a reminder to all Freon folks that the reason behind the increase in cost of Freon is that its phase out is due...
• Re: a/c - Sorry
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:56:22 -0500
  ...a/c - Sorry >> >> In reading the rules, here is my understanding of this AC thing. >> >> You can ONLY convert to 134a directly from R12...
• Re: ?? A/C maintenance prior to re-charge ??
  Historical mailing list - Timothy O. Crooks
  Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:24:11 -0400
  ...I haven't used the air for several years because > I thought the R12 had all leaked out because of a faulty high pressure...
• Re: removing air conditioner without spilling the freon
  Historical mailing list - Angus Gordon
  Fri, 11 Mar 2016 07:33:03 -0800
  Borrow a gauge to see how much (if any) R12 remains. If it needs to be evacuated you might check with local AC techs...
• Re: R12-R134a and the dealer.
  Historical mailing list
  Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:59:14 EDT
  In a message dated 98-07-14 10:58:15 EDT, ray.wei@US.PWCGLOBAL.COM writes: << Have you ever seen a knowledgeable VW...
• Re: freeze 12 combustible?
  Historical mailing list - Chris Stann
  Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:57:40 -0500
  ...He tells me its not a good idea because it is noticeably less efficient than the R12 and its also "combustable". Yikes! Is this...
• Re: AC System Repair/ Upgrade
  Historical mailing list - Keith Hughes
  Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:56:05 -0700
  ...If there's enough of the old R12 stuff in there you'll get a > nasty goo that will play hell with your A...