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  • Re: thanks for posting
    Historical mailing list - Rob
    Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:51:55 -0700
    ...I select what to read by the subject (or author), I save the 'good' ones (my r12-r134a mail box has 23 messages going...
  • Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)
    Historical mailing list
    Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:41:37 EDT
    The rumor that has been going around about the whole R-12 ban issue is this. Dupont holds the patent on the refrigerant R...
  • Re: After Market Radiator Fan?
    Historical mailing list - Timothy Hannink
    Sun, 27 May 2001 15:06:15 -0400
    ...should switch on the low speed fan regardless of water temperature. R12 level shouldn't directly influence the operation of the radiator fan, only...
  • After Market Radiator Fan?
    Historical mailing list - Steve Blackham
    Sun, 27 May 2001 12:24:37 -0600
    ...cause for the fan coming on so much is that the R12 level is lower than necessary? Anyone elses experiences would be appreciated. -- Steve...
  • Air Conditioning
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Sun, 26 Sep 2021 22:47:49 -0500
    ...Back when I had my '88 van, I dutifully switched my system over to R-134a because R12 was going out and what little...
  • Re: Friday flammables
    Historical mailing list - Zeitgeist
    Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:18:16 -0700
    ...a temporary "top-up", since it can be added to either R12 or R134a systems. That's what I did with my van...except...
  • Re: A/C hoses and fr12 refrigerant
    Historical mailing list - Robert Dalton
    Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:04:59 -0500
    ...It is quite a lot cheaper than r12 and according to Pennzoil dealer will cool as well as r12. Any comments on fr12 are...
  • Re: Freeze 12 Update
    Historical mailing list - Geo & Kathleen Hahn
    Sun, 9 Jul 2006 17:40:04 -0700
    ...it seems to work about as well as my recollection of R12. Geo Hahn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG...
  • Re: AC servicing woes
    Historical mailing list - Dennis Jowell
    Fri, 5 Aug 2016 18:33:25 -0400
    ...When are vans where built R12 with mineral oil was >> still the prevalent standard. No need to mention other options. As for the >> quantity...
  • Re: 87 westy ac refrigerant
    Historical mailing list - Bob Stevens
    Sun, 9 Feb 2003 11:10:27 -0700
    ...Bob Stevens '87 Syncro Westy ( who will be having his R12 system recharged this spring at a much greater cost) http://groups.msn.com...
  • AC Thermostat
    Historical mailing list - James V
    Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:37:13 -0700
    ...The part costs $160, which doesn't seem so bad in comparison to a new compressor and/or R12. But my friend suggested that...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - Stephen Grisanti
    Tue, 14 Apr 2020 04:18:41 +0000
    ...Most AC shops dumped or upgraded their R12 > recovery systems long ago, when the R12 to R134 conversion business finally > went away. > > You will...
  • Re: 134 conversion
    Historical mailing list - Jeffrey Schwaia
    Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:12:47 -0800
    ...If you will take your R12 license and calculate the actual first class repair of a leaky or non functioning Vanagon system you'll...
  • found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - Spencer Allen
    Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:35:49 +0000
    Found two 1LB cans of R12 in my late uncles garage. My 85 Westys AC worked when I bought it 20 years ago but...
  • brakes done (right this time)
    Historical mailing list - Warren Lail
    Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:19:04 -0600
    ...thanks Dennis!) ( http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0805A&L=vanagon&P=R12814). Now I have brakes and a functioning parking...
  • Re: Air Conditioner Question
    Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
    Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:56:02 -0600
    ...In the early years, it wasn't much Freon to get a clear > sight > glass and R12 used to be cheap. Not anymore. My...
  • Re: AC System Repair/ Upgrade
    Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
    Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:08:47 -0700
    ...I'm considering conversion to Freeze-12 rather than > another R12 recharge (since the R12 will undoubtably leak away again, adding > to the ozone...
  • Re: Fwd: 89 syncro westy ac question
    Historical mailing list - David Beierl
    Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:36:38 -0400
    At 23:49 8/15/2000, CHRIS STANN wrote: >R12 and R134 will burn when exposed to flame. The resulting gasses are >poisonous and...
  • Re: 134 conversion
    Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
    Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:06:52 -0600
    ...If this was a $300.00 midification I wouldn't encourage it but it cam be accomplished for less that the R12 refrigerant charge...
  • Re: R12 or R134 - How to distinguish?
    Historical mailing list - Roger Sisler
    Thu, 29 Jun 2006 10:58:51 -0400
    Yes, it makes a brown mud. The idea is to remove at least 80 percent of the previous chemicals that were inside. In a...
  • Re: Vanagon a/c
    Historical mailing list - Kevin Gilbert
    Wed, 25 May 2011 23:15:39 -0400
    ...It's still the freon (R12) >> system and I'm not prepared to pay the cost of regular R12 refills >> so it has to...
  • Re: AC does loses freon
    Historical mailing list - Mike
    Fri, 3 Oct 2008 20:59:09 -0400
    ...R12 was the original fluid but since we can't get > it > anymore he uses something called Freeze 12 which works OK but does...
  • A/C rebuild
    Historical mailing list - Harry Yates
    Sat, 6 May 1995 15:38:54 +0000
    ...On the bright side, since my a/c system uses R12 refrigerant, this is the best thing that happened to my compressor. First of...
  • Re: 134 conversion
    Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
    Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:49:25 -0600
    ...for less that the R12 refrigerant charge. > >>I was quoted $175.00 to recharge my Porsche system with R12 and that is > >>about the...
  • Re: [Flickr] rogersisler2000 wants you to see something
    Historical mailing list - Jake de Villiers
    Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:22:34 -0700
    ...I'd say Renault, from an R12 or R16. Will there be prizes? Two weeks in Paris? A month on the Algarve? On Wed...
  • access to rear a/c evaporator
    Historical mailing list - Rick Koller
    Tue, 7 Apr 1998 16:11:05 -0400
    ...Looks like a $1,000 job after everything is done, I'm still dithering about converting to R134a (not as cool as R12 I...
  • Re: a/c rebuild and retrofitted to R134a
    Historical mailing list - harald.nancy
    Wed, 13 May 1998 13:07:17 -0700
    > > << sure is a lot less costly to recharge with R134a, > compared to R12. >> Scott wrote: > How often are you recharging? Did you replace any...
  • Re: FOLLOW UP MINOR? COOLANT CATASTROPHE HELP NEEDED
    Historical mailing list - Chris ALmida
    Wed, 30 Jul 2003 22:17:08 -0700
    ...Right now I already scheduled a R12 to 134 conversion and fill for Friday and leave for a trip on Tuesday so just want...
  • Re: A/C charging and maintenance...
    Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
    Fri, 28 May 2004 12:29:12 -0400
    ...They give as good a cooling effect as the older R12, but have a much lesser head pressure (and hence on our Vanagons the...
  • Re: Lowered Vanagon
    Historical mailing list - Jack R.
    Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:53:08 -0400
    WOW!!! My AC doesn't work that well!!!!! Must be R12 on steroids! -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com...
  • Re: A/C -R12--R134a (O-RING QUESTION??)
    Historical mailing list - Yi-Ruey Wei
    Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:29:45 -0500
    ...A/C -R12--R134a (O-RING QUESTION??) Hi John, When I converted to R134a, I replaced all the o-rings with the new green...
  • Re: Vanagon a/c
    Historical mailing list - walkingboss
    Mon, 23 May 2011 17:20:30 -0500
    ...It's still the freon (R12) system and I'm not prepared to pay >> the cost of regular R12 refills so it has to...
  • Re: help w/ charging/filling AC
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Sun, 19 Jun 2005 20:18:25 -0500
    ...For some time, I considered changing over to R134a, but after a lot of reading decided to stay with the R12 for the time...
  • Improving Vanagon Archive Search. [Was Re: Westy: Getting to the cookstove burner valve?]
    Historical mailing list - Michael Diehr
    Sun, 15 Jan 2006 12:24:46 -0800
    ...Here's my post: > > http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9909A&L=vanagon&P=R12789 > > or http://tinyurl.com/df698 Thank...
  • Re: WTB A/C gauges and vacuum pump
    Historical mailing list - Joshua Van Tol
    Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:53:47 -0600
    ...I will use a propane/butane mixture which is totally legal and >>more effecient that R12 or R134A > >Maybe more efficent, but not legal...
  • Re: AC question
    Historical mailing list - John Lauterbach
    Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:39:23 -0400
    ...and I am wondering if anyone knows how many pounds of R12 are supposed to go in the Vanagon. If I know that then...
  • '87 GL AC
    Historical mailing list - Susan Powell
    Tue, 26 Jul 2005 20:32:39 -0500
    ...recharged original ac system with Freeze 12- stuff that can be used in place of R12. Good cool ac almost at once, but when...
  • Re: Remving the camping equipment and a source for paint
    Historical mailing list - Malcolm Stebbins
    Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:33:29 -0800
    ...vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind9909A&L=vanagon&P=R12789 Other than that, just hunt for screws and bolts. The rear cabinet...
  • Re: ES-12 Refrigerant - Caution
    Historical mailing list - Chris S.
    Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:46:25 -0400
    ...R134 is flammable and so is R12. Freon makes some nasty poisonous fumes when burned. Cars already carry gasoline, and that's pretty darn...
  • Re: AC Question
    Historical mailing list - Stephen Grisanti
    Tue, 11 Jun 2013 16:02:05 -0700
    ...R134a doesn't work nearly as well as R12 in an unmodified R12 system.� Mods can run into some serious change. R134a will work...
  • Re: R12-R134a and the dealer.
    Historical mailing list - Yi-Ruey Wei
    Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:02:37 -0500
    ...DavidM <dmc@CYBURBAN.COM> To: Vanagon@VANAGON.COM cc: Subject: Re: R12-R134a and the dealer. Jim DiGennaro wrote: > > Hi Volks, > I read Johns...
  • Re: A/C -R12--R134a (O-RING QUESTION??)
    Historical mailing list - Timothy O. Crooks
    Thu, 20 Aug 1998 02:42:57 -0400
    ...A/C -R12--R134a (O-RING QUESTION??) > > Hi John, > When I converted to R134a, I replaced all the o-rings > with the new green...
  • Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
    Historical mailing list - John Bange
    Tue, 24 May 2005 16:29:22 -0700
    Ideally, an AC system should hold pressure forever. Realistically, on a 15+ year old vehicle like the Vanagon, you are indeed probably looking at...
  • Re: any auto AC enthusiasts out there? compressor oil capacity? NVC
    Historical mailing list - Florian Speier
    Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:04:37 -0600
    ...So > unless you have the gauges and pump, just take it to an AC shop. > > Your Vanagon uses R12, which was phased out in...
  • Re: Advance Auto AC recharge kit
    Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
    Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:01:58 -0700
    ...When the EPA turned Freon R12 into gold there have been many (Forgeries) canned and called R12. If you were to check for butane...
  • A/C compressor question
    Historical mailing list - Steve Cotsford
    Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:23:08 EDT
    ...seal as its lost a lot of this years charge of R12. I have used a sniffer and not been successful in finding a...
  • Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
    Historical mailing list - Greg Pratt
    Wed, 16 Jun 2004 17:19:23 EDT
    TJ Hannink <tjhannink@YAHOO.COM> wrote: "plug the vents themselves with some foam rubber blocks" Last summer while driving through Redding, CA. in 108deg...
  • Re: Air conditioning compressor
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Sat, 9 Dec 2017 12:05:33 -0600
    ...In time they will leak thru the old R12 HOSES and you will find yourself adding 134a periodically. The 134a has a much higher...
  • Re: AC
    Historical mailing list - David Kurimski
    Tue, 7 May 2013 22:19:41 -0500
    ...How can I tell if its R12 or R134A? If its the former what type of shop could convert it? > > Thanks > Jim
  • Re: ugh!! fridge still blowing out!!FOLLOWUP RESULTS
    Historical mailing list - mark drillock
    Wed, 9 Jun 2004 04:29:52 -0700
    ...I > feel that my mechanical R12 fridge would last longer than the Dometic unit > on the same batteries. Any ideas? >
  • Question adding BEHR front AC to existing rear AC
    Historical mailing list - Christopher Gronski
    Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:16:00 -0400
    I am bringing my van in to a local VW shop to convert from R12, replace the compressor (there is one leak in the...
  • Re: Air Conditioning help
    Historical mailing list - Keith Hughes
    Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:31:43 -0800
    ...a hydrocarbon.� Is this true?� Freeze 12 was developed so that R12 systems could be recharged without changing the lubricant.� The 142b carries the...
  • Re: 85 Vanagon AC
    Historical mailing list - Dan Houg
    Fri, 24 Feb 1995 11:25:57 CST6CDT
    SStones says: > You used to be able to buy r12 in one litre @ liquid bottles > but the govt. of Canada has disallowed this, I...
  • A/C Warm
    Historical mailing list - R. Hotchkiss
    Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:30:44 +0100
    ...this cost? If not, what will the price of a rebuilt R12 compressor be about? TIA Hotch 86 Vanagon GL 89 Jetta GL Philly...
  • Re: R12 - Freon
    Historical mailing list - Timothy O. Crooks
    Fri, 21 Aug 1998 02:23:27 -0400
    Yes, this is true, but the fact remains that r-12 is being phased out and will someday no longer be avail in The...
  • Re: Vanagon axle nut torque ?
    Historical mailing list - jbange
    Mon, 9 May 2005 09:34:10 -0700
    ...Between that and the AC section that only covered the R12 based system when they only had the R12 system in the first two...
  • Re: AC High Side - line leak - rubber hose
    Historical mailing list - Jack R.
    Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:20:52 -0400
    ...The original type of hose was designed during the time period when R12 refrigerant was inexpensive and it's affect on the ozone level...
  • Re: 87 westy ac refrigerant
    Historical mailing list - Mark Dorm
    Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:20:31 -0800
    ...They can still get R12... </P> <P>When I was in Florida, a volkswagon mechanic in Broward County (next to Miami-Dade) said he...
  • Re: VANAGON Airconditioning Retrofitting
    Historical mailing list - EMZ
    Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:23:26 -0500
    ...Although if you can (inexpensively) keep your old R12 system working, this is your best bet. Eric 86-VW4x4 vw4x4@fyi.net 72-240z...
  • Re: Converting to R134
    Historical mailing list - TJ Hannink
    Thu, 5 Jun 2003 05:52:35 -0700
    ...me a reference to the procedure to > convert my '91 from R12 to R134. I know that i have > seen this information more than...