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  • Freeze-12 and refrigerant oils
    Historical mailing list - DaveC
    Tue, 3 Jul 2001 16:37:22 -0700
    Check out this web page comparing different refrigerants and oils: http://www.autofrost.com/oil/index.html It would seem that Freeze-12 doesn...
  • AC RETROFIT R12 to R134a
    Historical mailing list - Eric Zeno
    Tue, 7 May 1996 11:39:37 (EST)
    ...Due to residual amounts of mineral based refrigerant oil in systems retrofitted the newly installed PAG refrigerant oil will discolor immediately after use. This...
  • Re: a/c rebuild and retrofitted to R134a
    Historical mailing list - harald.nancy
    Wed, 13 May 1998 18:57:59 -0700
    ...Remove compressor, remove oil drain plug and tip refrigerant oil out. -Fill compressor with refrigerant oil for R134a (part No. G052 154 A2) Quantity...
  • Re: rebuilding a/c compressor??
    Historical mailing list - Mike Collum
    Tue, 20 May 2008 11:54:23 -0400
    ...refrigerant gets low. But, how can one tell just how much oil to add? Too much is bad as is too little. Is PAG...
  • Re: AC Question
    Historical mailing list - Jim Felder
    Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:23:25 -0500
    ...POE not PAG oil. You must change the receiver/drier > anytime you open the system, and especially when changing oil/refrigerant, > if you don...
  • Re: AC 134a refrigerant leak down
    Historical mailing list - Ryan Press
    Thu, 9 May 2013 09:37:12 -0700
    ...The best way to retrofit is to flush the system and replace the mineral oil with double-end-capped PAG or POE. PAG is...
  • Re: I lost my cool!!
    Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
    Sun, 8 Jul 2012 23:18:45 -0400
    ...The two different refrigerants use different oils. In order to convert a system from one refrigerant to the other (usually going from R12 to...
  • Re: Whining AC compressor
    Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
    Fri, 5 Aug 2016 00:42:00 -0400
    ...How did you add the PAG oil? If you used an R134a oil can kit you now have mixed (contaminated) refrigerant system. If you...
  • Re: Whining AC compressor
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Fri, 5 Aug 2016 00:00:56 -0500
    ...the PAG oil with the HFC152a. > > You also made some bad assumptions. When refrigerant leaks out it will > take some of the oil with...
  • Re: Switching a/c in 81 vanagon to r-134...how much compressor oil?
    Historical mailing list - Joe Romas
    Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:47:28 -0400
    This page, http://www.gti16v.org/tb879503.htm has the answere to your oil question. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vanagon Man" <puzerewski@MSN.COM...
  • Re: A/C refrigerant oil quantities
    Historical mailing list
    Mon, 22 May 2000 22:21:25 EDT
    ...Early R-134a systems used PAG oil which is really water absorbent and not compatible with mineral oil either. Almost everything I read now...
  • Re: AC Converting/Procedure/R134A
    Historical mailing list - Richard A Jones
    Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:27:42 -0600
    ...http://tinyurl.com/ky723 Also, I found a comment on an EPA page, Choosing & Using Alternate Refrigerants..." that says that barrier hoses are needed...
  • Re: AC System Repair/ Upgrade
    Historical mailing list - Keith Hughes
    Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:56:05 -0700
    ...oil will not be carried through the system with the refrigerant, and compressor failure will result - just a matter of time. The PAG and...
  • Re: A/C charging and maintenance...
    Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
    Fri, 28 May 2004 15:28:49 -0700
    ...Both of these are supposed to be compatible with both ester and pag oil, however all the material I've seen on the Sanden...
  • 1991 Carat AC System servicing
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Wed, 7 Sep 2016 21:11:48 -0500
    ...Flushed system, pulled a vacuum, put in PAG 46 oil, added 12 oz. Of refrigerant, expecting the compressor to turn on. It did not...
  • Re: Whining AC compressor
    Historical mailing list - Dave Bohannan
    Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:14:28 -0400
    ...I just did a google for “PAG oil charge” and came up with stuff @ Advance Auto Parts…among others… Dave > On Aug 4, 2016...
  • Re: AC Question
    Historical mailing list - Todd Last
    Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:40:15 +0000
    ...POE not PAG oil.  You must change the receiver/drier > anytime you open the system, and especially when changing oil/refrigerant, > if you don...
  • Re: a/c - Sorry
    Historical mailing list - Keith Hughes
    Thu, 7 Sep 2006 16:13:55 -0700
    ...carrying mineral oil, and the system really should be flushed, the receiver/drier replaced, and the system filled with PAG/POE oil before charging...
  • Re: a/c - Sorry
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:56:22 -0500
    ...carrying mineral oil, and the system > really should be flushed, the receiver/drier replaced, and the system > filled with PAG/POE oil before charging...
  • Re: AC Conversion: R12 to R134A
    Historical mailing list - Mark & Laura Magee
    Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:10:09 -0500
    ...Fill compressor w/PAG oil. Install new expansion valve. Install new filter dryer. Close all lines. Vac system. Install new R 134a ports. Charge...
  • Re: Air Conditioning help
    Historical mailing list - Keith Hughes
    Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:31:43 -0800
    ...add refrigerant on a regular basis. Personally, I would not trust any of these "drop-in" replacements to provide sufficient mineral oil carrying capacity...
  • Re: Whining AC compressor
    Historical mailing list - Larry Alofs
    Thu, 4 Aug 2016 18:40:36 -0400
    Was all the old mineral oil cleaned out of the compressor before the conversion? Any idea why PAG was used instead of ester oil...
  • Re: Alternate A/C refrigerants?
    Historical mailing list - John Gladu
    Mon, 12 May 1997 00:33:54 -0500
    ...refrigerants. R406a and its brother R414a both use the existing system (except for new fittings) and are compatible with the old mineral oil lubricant...
  • Re: AC Conversion
    Historical mailing list - TJ Hannink
    Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:58:37 -0700
    ...Mineral oil is used in R-12, R-12A systems. Ester or PAG oil is used in the 134 charged sytems. TJ Hannink Goldibox...
  • Re: Whining AC compressor
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Thu, 4 Aug 2016 22:30:21 -0500
    Larry, four years ago the system was flushed by a shop, PAG OIL added ( I don't know how much) using some reference they...
  • Re: Freeze-12 and other A/C supplies
    Historical mailing list - Keith Hughes
    Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:19:18 -0700
    ...R-134a *will* run at higher head, and will not carry oil as well (although the PAG and POE oils are not bad) so...
  • latest on Re: vanagon AC (long)
    Historical mailing list - Bart Wineland
    Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:03:46 -0400
    ...oils have less lubricity than PAG oils. R-134a is flammable when mixed with air and placed under pressure, as are all HFC refrigerants...
  • Re: Whining AC compressor
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:52:15 -0500
    Is there a way to add more PAG oil to the system without venting and draining the whole thing? I'd like to get...
  • Re: I lost my cool!!
    Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
    Mon, 9 Jul 2012 00:20:21 -0400
    AC compressor normally come with some oil in them . They were run and tested The receiver/dryer should also be replaced during a refrigerant...
  • KarmaKanix Reference
    Historical mailing list - Josh Monson
    Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:21:18 -0800
    ...The hose can work itself loose causing all the oil and refrigerant to be lost. Check the nut for tightness I had a warning...
  • Re: Whining AC compressor
    Historical mailing list - KI4TLF
    Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:15:32 -0500
    ...Whining AC compressor Is there a way to add more PAG oil to the system without venting and draining the whole thing? I'd...
  • Re: AC conversion
    Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
    Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:24:23 -0400
    ...Be careful not to add too much PAG or other oil choice. Too much won’t pass through the dryer and will mess up...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - David McNeely
    Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:20:52 -0700
    ...If still some mineral oil in there use > Ester. If you really got the system cleaned you can use the preferred PAG > oil for...
  • Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
    Historical mailing list - Stuart MacMillan
    Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:17:01 -0700
    ...https://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=62 Come up to the beautiful Pacific Northwest and rent a car to...
  • Re: R-134A retrofit (JC WHIPME content)
    Historical mailing list - EMZ
    Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:42:37 -0400
    ...you must be licenced to purchase the R134 as well as any other refrigerant. Eric 86-VW4x4 vw4x4@fyi.net 72-240z Pittsburgh, PA...
  • Re: any auto AC enthusiasts out there? compressor oil capacity? NVC
    Historical mailing list - Florian Speier
    Tue, 3 Jun 2008 16:04:37 -0600
    ...The Haynes book for this car, > the compressor fact sheet and NAPA are not able to to > tell me exactly how much PAG oil...
  • Re: A/C info and questions.
    Historical mailing list - Old Volks Home
    Tue, 26 May 1998 20:54:54 -0700
    ...Many of the alternative subsititutes are very hard to find, sometimes called "orphan refrigerants". Why fool with it, doesn't make sense to me...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - David McNeely
    Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:22:43 -0700
    ...If still some mineral oil in there use > Ester. If you really got the system cleaned you can use the preferred PAG > oil for...
  • Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
    Historical mailing list - Alistair Bell
    Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:26:13 -0700
    ...https://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=62 > > Come up to the beautiful Pacific Northwest and rent a car to...
  • Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
    Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
    Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:36:56 -0500
    ...https://www.smallcar.com/index.php?dispatch=pages.view&page_id=62 > > Come up to the beautiful Pacific Northwest and rent a car to...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - David McNeely
    Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:38:37 -0700
    ...If > > > > still some mineral oil in there use Ester. If you really got the > > > > system cleaned you can use the preferred PAG oil for...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - Spencer Allen
    Mon, 13 Apr 2020 16:28:16 -0500
    ...If still some mineral oil in there use > Ester. If you really got the system cleaned you can use the preferred PAG > oil for...
  • Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
    Historical mailing list - kenneth wilford (Van-Again)
    Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:11:55 -0400
    ...Maybe I need all new > refrigerant hoses. I've heard that the R134a slips through the wall of the > old hoses. > > mcneely > > > mcneely > > ---- PB...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
    Tue, 14 Apr 2020 14:41:46 -0500
    ...If > > > > still some mineral oil in there use Ester. If you really got the > > > > system cleaned you can use the preferred PAG oil for...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
    Mon, 13 Apr 2020 20:55:59 -0500
    ...If still some > mineral oil in there use Ester. If you really got the system cleaned > you can use the preferred PAG oil for...
  • Re: 89 syncro westy ac question
    Historical mailing list - Mark Dorm
    Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:45:18 PDT
    ...REFEREE) or you have a foreign agent like dirt, moisture or >PAG oil in your R12 system negating the necessary valving action. Your >high...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
    Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:23:44 -0500
    Not all refrigerant oil contains dye. And Freon bleeding past the compressor front seal won't carry much oil unless it becomes a major...
  • Re: any auto AC enthusiasts out there? compressor oil capacity? NVC
    Historical mailing list - Stuart MacMillan
    Tue, 3 Jun 2008 15:10:58 -0700
    ...any auto AC enthusiasts out there? compressor oil capacity? NVC nope, r22 is being phased out too. that is an old refrigerant for residential...
  • Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
    Historical mailing list - Stuart MacMillan
    Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:59:07 -0700
    ...Maybe I need all new refrigerant hoses. I've heard that the R134a slips through the wall of the old hoses. > > mcneely > > > mcneely > > ---- PB...
  • Re: 1991 Carat AC System servicing
    Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
    Fri, 30 Sep 2016 16:32:13 -0500
    ...days. > > Flushed system, pulled a vacuum, put in PAG 46 oil, added 12 oz. Of > refrigerant, expecting the compressor to turn on. It did...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - David McNeely
    Mon, 13 Apr 2020 19:56:23 -0700
    ...If still some > > mineral oil in there use Ester. If you really got the system cleaned > > you can use the preferred PAG oil for...
  • Re: Fixing Vanagon Air Conditioning....trying at least
    Historical mailing list - Richard Koerner
    Sat, 10 Aug 2019 18:20:17 +0000
    ...If doing a really good conversion with new compressor consider the PAG oil. Use a multi or get the correct viscosity for the compressor...
  • Re: 89 syncro westy ac question
    Historical mailing list - John
    Wed, 16 Aug 2000 02:43:49 -0400
    ...REFEREE) or you have a foreign agent like dirt, moisture or PAG oil in your R12 system negating the necessary valving action. Your high...
  • Re: How to convert to 134?
    Historical mailing list - Florian Speier
    Tue, 6 May 2008 13:10:22 -0700
    ...You can buy cans with 2oz of pag oil and 2 oz of r134a mixed and just fill like any other can apparently. seems...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - David McNeely
    Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:29:25 -0700
    ...If still > > > some mineral oil in there use Ester. If you really got the system > > > cleaned you can use the preferred PAG oil for...
  • Re: A/C charging and maintenance...
    Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
    Fri, 28 May 2004 08:41:33 -0500
    ...original refrigerant oil quantity specification, add [INSERT QUANTITY HERE] ounces of Ester oil to the compressor. Ester oil is preferable to PAG in a...
  • Re: D.I.Y. R-134 Kit AC Recharge advice
    Historical mailing list - Charles Hokanson
    Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:16:04 EDT
    ...system, flush it, change the seals, change the receiver/dryer, add PAG oil, vaccum, then charge (and I may have missed some stuff as...
  • Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
    Historical mailing list - Jim Felder
    Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:50:00 +0000
    ...Maybe I need all new > > refrigerant hoses. I've heard that the R134a slips through the wall of > the > > old hoses. > > > > mcneely > > > > > > mcneely > > > > ---- PB...
  • Re: Changes to a '90 Westy
    Historical mailing list - Stephen Grisanti
    Fri, 19 Jun 2015 13:34:30 +0000
    ...The worst > > case scenario is not good, but it does give me "hope."  At the moment > > I have an oil and a transmission leak...
  • Re: found some freon 12 should I recharge old AC
    Historical mailing list - Stephen Grisanti
    Tue, 14 Apr 2020 04:18:41 +0000
    ...If still some > > mineral oil in there use Ester. If you really got the system cleaned > > you can use the preferred PAG oil for...