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• R12 vs. R134
  Historical mailing list - John Branstrom
  Sun, 28 May 2000 12:08:40 EDT
  ...My mechanic can still get R12. Other than the retro fit and the environmental concerns. Are their any advantages to R12 over R134 (better...
• A/C question: Ester Oil and R-12 do they mix?
  Historical mailing list - Robert Lilley
  Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:04:42 -0700
  Will R12 work with ester oil in the AC system rather than the r12 oil? I have an alternate Freon in the system that...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - R. Hotchkiss
  Wed, 14 May 2003 09:28:51 -0400
  ...It can be added to R12 (even though the EPA doesn't approve of mixing refrigerants) or replace R12 without the massive change over...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Roberto Munoz
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 20:57:06 -0400
  ...It sounds like the compressor engages, but when I tested the > valves there was no R12 pressure at all. > > So my theory is that...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Wed, 25 May 2005 10:35:29 -0400
  ...On May 25, 2005, at 1:19 AM, Vanagon wrote: > > All of the alternatives to R12 are 134 mixes. > NONE are as good as...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - Mike S
  Sun, 8 Jul 2012 22:02:24 -0400
  ...The > fittings for R134a and R12 are different of course. If your vehicle > has not been converted, it is R12. Good catch. R134a systems...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - J Stewart
  Mon, 9 Jul 2012 02:14:04 +0000
  Then, if that is true, the compressor Bus Depot just sold me as compatible with either R12 or R134A isn't-the label on...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Roberto Munoz
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:18:16 -0400
  Yes ...cost is the same R12 = $59.00 per pound (to be phase out in the very near future) R134 = $9.50 per pound...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Vanagon
  Wed, 25 May 2005 08:57:23 -0700
  ...They do say you HAVE to charge the system with LESS by 34 percent than the original R12. which I have heard is not...
• R12
  Historical mailing list - Alex Jay
  Sun, 5 Jun 2005 21:31:43 -0400
  ...Its AC is in need of an R12 charge. Is there anyone out there that knows where I can purchase a can of R12...
• R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - Mike D.
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:41:13 -0700
  ...It sounds like the compressor engages, but when I tested the valves there was no R12 pressure at all. So my theory is that...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Sun, 8 Jul 2012 23:18:45 -0400
  A compressor can be used with either R12 or R134a.....just not at the same time. The two different refrigerants use different oils. In...
• Re: My R134a experience
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:54:01 -0500
  NOt by personal experience, but by a lot of reading, the head pressure on a 134a conversion is much greater that that of R12...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Tue, 24 May 2011 20:30:06 -0500
  ---- Jeff Schwaia <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > R134a is a poor replacement for R12. It's not nearly as efficient and it runs at...
• Re: AC Charge Question80
  Historical mailing list - Richard A. Jones
  Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:58:04 -0600
  R134a is a mixture while R12 (Freon) is a single compound. I have read that the sight-glass is only useful with R12. Also...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - David Brodbeck
  Wed, 14 May 2003 08:36:43 -0400
  On Tue, 13 May 2003, Kun Chang wrote: > My mechanic charged me $53/lb of Freon R12, a total of $187 for 3.5...
• Re: My R134a experience
  Historical mailing list - Zeitgeist
  Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:16:42 -0700
  ...I have decided to stick with the R12, > or at least one of the R12 look-alikes - Duracool or some other. To use > a...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - R. Hotchkiss
  Wed, 14 May 2003 11:38:44 -0400
  ...Cost of Freon R12 > > I'm getting ready to have the AC serviced on my 88 GL. What are the > differences between R12, Freeze...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - developtrust
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:11:34 -0700
  ...It sounds like the compressor engages, but when I tested the > > valves there was no R12 pressure at all. > > > > So my theory is that...
• Re: My R134a experience
  Historical mailing list - Michael Diehr
  Thu, 3 Aug 2006 16:31:21 -0700
  ...I have decided to stick with the R12, > or at least one of the R12 look-alikes - Duracool or some other. To > use > a...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Wed, 14 May 2003 09:27:00 -0600
  ...What are the differences between R12, Freeze 12, and the 134a?? Anybody? Thanks, John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Kun Chang wrote: >My mechanic charged...
• AC system servicing
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Sat, 1 Jul 2006 22:11:29 -0500
  ...If not, then Freeze12 - most comparable to R12. It is getting a new compressor(R12 type) and a new receiver/dryer. Besides seals, what...
• Re: A/C R-12 to R-134A
  Historical mailing list - Randy Herd
  Thu, 3 May 2001 07:38:39 -0600
  Michael, Every spring for three or four years, I had to add about a pound of R12 to my system (slow leak at the...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Wed, 25 May 2005 12:27:52 -0400
  ...which I have heard is not really proper to do to an R12 > system > and has its own set of drawbacks. Of course the...
• Re: R12
  Historical mailing list
  Mon, 6 Jun 2005 12:10:19 EDT
  ...Its AC is in need > of an R12 charge. Is there anyone out there that knows where I can purchase > a can of R12...
• Re: R12 or R134?
  Historical mailing list - don spence
  Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:26:23 -0600
  ...It sounds like the compressor engages, but when I tested the > valves there was no R12 pressure at all. > > So my theory is that...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Jeffrey Schwaia
  Wed, 25 May 2005 10:06:01 -0700
  ...all my R12 is gone..? (bummer) Duracool (and the stuff that Fox sells) is a formula derived from Propane and Butane (and still contains...
• Bus Depot A/C Compressor Sanden 508
  Historical mailing list - J Stewart
  Tue, 3 Jul 2012 14:11:48 +0000
  ...Before ordering I called and asked if it was R-134 compatible and was told yes, either R12 or R134. It has a sticker...
• Re: A/C question: Ester Oil and R-12 do they mix?
  Historical mailing list
  Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:08:57 -0400
  Robert, Ester oil is compatible with R12 but not compatible with mineral oil which is general associated with R12. So an R12 system must...
• Re: R12 - Freon
  Historical mailing list - EMZ
  Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:27:45 -0400
  ...I have been offer "boot leg" R12 for $20 a lb. No label, no idea if it was real R12 or what? Eric
• Re: A/C tune-up time
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Sun, 14 Mar 2004 14:10:17 -0600
  Jaime Forero wrote: >My 91 has an R12 system. Has anyone done a modification to 134A?? Does the >whole system have to be changed...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - Jeffrey Schwaia
  Wed, 14 May 2003 11:34:01 -0700
  ...Cost of Freon R12 On Tue, 13 May 2003, Kun Chang wrote: > My mechanic charged me $53/lb of Freon R12, a total of...
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Stan Wilder
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:58:03 -0500
  I never said r134a was as good as R12. I just contend that if you use the 134a you might overcome the lesser cooling...
• Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - Kun Chang
  Tue, 13 May 2003 23:33:57 EDT
  My mechanic charged me $53/lb of Freon R12, a total of $187 for 3.5 lb. I do not remember ever paying so...
• A/C Replacement for R12???
  Historical mailing list - Judith Barr/Leo Girard
  Mon, 25 May 1998 22:41:51 -0400
  Hi gang, Interested to note the mention of a replacement for R12. Can you supply a name? Cost? Thanks Leo Meaford ON CN on...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Vanagon
  Tue, 24 May 2005 22:19:52 -0700
  You will loose 20percent cooling efficiency with anything but R-12, All of the alternatives to R12 are 134 mixes. NONE are as good...
• Re: AC 134a refrigerant leak down
  Historical mailing list - JRodgers
  Thu, 9 May 2013 09:53:56 -0500
  ...One of my cars - my 1953 > Mercedes 190Dc - is still R12 and if it ever gets low I'll buy R12 off > Fleabay before...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - Jeff Schwaia
  Tue, 24 May 2011 19:12:07 -0700
  ...R134a = greenhouse gas; R12 = CFC. If you really care about the environment, we'd all appreciate it if you would turn off your computer...
• Re: Bus Depot A/C Compressor Sanden 508
  Historical mailing list - Zeitgeist
  Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:29:39 -0700
  I assume the tag is in reference to the fact that the compressor was assembled with mineral oil (R12), vs. PAG (R134a), so if...
• Re: A/C Replacement for R12???
  Historical mailing list - Scooter061
  Mon, 25 May 1998 23:20:15 EDT
  Here's a link for the FrigC drop in replacement for R12.... http://www.frigc.com/ (AOL users: <A HREF="http://www.frigc.com...
• Re: a/c rebuild and retrofitted to R134a
  Historical mailing list - harald.nancy
  Tue, 12 May 1998 20:45:46 -0700
  ...I haven't noticed a temperature difference between R12 and R134a. But, of course, my R12 never seemed to work for very long. It...
• Re: AC Charge Question80
  Historical mailing list - Mark Dorm
  Thu, 5 Jul 2001 16:06:13 -0700
  ...I have read that the sight-glass is only >useful with R12. > >Also, the charge of R134a is typically ~80% of >R12 and should...
• A/C resuscitation - where to start?
  Historical mailing list - james
  Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:30:07 -0400
  I took an online test to get certified to buy R12. The test was $20.00 and open book online. Now I can get...
• Re: AC 134a refrigerant leak down
  Historical mailing list - Tom Hargrave
  Wed, 8 May 2013 23:29:24 -0500
  R134a only has 80% of the thermal mass of R12 which means that R134a will only cool 80% as effectively as R12. Newer designs...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Christopher Gronski
  Wed, 25 May 2005 08:58:36 -0400
  ...all my R12 is gone..? (bummer) > > > > A properly working AC system in a late model (86 and later) Vanagon (or > > Westy) will cool you...
• Re: AC Recharge
  Historical mailing list - Jfp w/2 WBXs
  Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:21:38 +0000
  Hi, If your system was converted to R134a, how did you fill the system with R12? The service ports are different and Mineral & PAG...
• Re: A/C -R12--R134a, VW tech bulletin, there's one.
  Historical mailing list - Michael Modl
  Wed, 19 Aug 1998 03:46:06 EDT
  In a message dated 98-08-18 20:20:20 EDT, jdpierce@kpmg.com writes: << What is the difference in cooling ability between R12...
• Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
  Historical mailing list - Kim Brennan
  Wed, 25 May 2005 10:34:40 -0400
  ...all my R12 is gone..? (bummer) > > >> A properly working AC system in a late model (86 and later) Vanagon >> (or >> Westy) will cool you...
• Re: Vanagon a/c
  Historical mailing list - John Rodgers
  Tue, 24 May 2011 21:27:59 -0500
  I haven't researched this to validate it - but, I have heard rumors to the effect that R12 has turned out not to be...
• Re: My R134a experience
  Historical mailing list - Robert Fisher
  Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:08:36 -0700
  ...I have decided to stick with the R12, > or at least one of the R12 look-alikes - Duracool or some other. To use > a...
• Re: Air Conditioning
  Historical mailing list - Gary Lee
  Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:43:28 -0700
  FWIW, since R12 has become so expensive a lot of people started using "BBQ12" for refrigerant in automotive AC systems. Basically a mix of...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - Dennis Haynes
  Mon, 9 Jul 2012 00:31:27 -0400
  ...The > > fittings for R134a and R12 are different of course. If your vehicle > > has not been converted, it is R12. > Good catch. R134a systems...
• Re: Cost of Freon R12
  Historical mailing list - Fredrich Hesterberg
  Wed, 14 May 2003 09:04:21 -0500
  ...Good Morning, Fred E-mail message These days, if you can get R12 at all you're doing pretty good. David Brodbeck, N8SRE '82...
• R12 Evacuation (the Earth friendly way)
  Historical mailing list - phil stanhope
  Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:04:05 -0700
  ...Is there something I can buy/rent cheaply that will remove the R12 in an earth friendly way?" Im pulling the WasserBoxer out and...
• Re: R12 to R134a Air Conditioning Conversion
  Historical mailing list - Doug in Calif
  Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:19:14 -0700
  Stan, I have to agree with the earlier post 134 is not as good in an R12 system . Check out the article on Go...
• Re: I lost my cool!!
  Historical mailing list - Dave Mcneely
  Sun, 8 Jul 2012 22:33:18 -0500
  ...The > > > fittings for R134a and R12 are different of course. If your vehicle > > > has not been converted, it is R12. > > Good catch. R134a systems...
• Re: A/C -R12--R134a (a bit off point)
  Historical mailing list - EMZ
  Wed, 19 Aug 1998 17:33:33 -0400
  ...After extensive legal battles it was found that the US (at the time) uses most of the R12 feon. So we were the target...
• Re: A/C R-12 to R-134A
  Historical mailing list - Randy Herd
  Wed, 2 May 2001 08:32:32 -0600
  ...Straight 134A operates under a lot higher pressure than R12. Freeze-12 is in between. Have the AC tech pull a good vac, add...
• Re: R12 - Freon
  Historical mailing list - Timothy O. Crooks
  Fri, 21 Aug 1998 13:50:05 -0400
  ...I have been offer "boot leg" R12 for $20 > a lb. No label, no idea if it was real R12 or what? > Eric
• Re: R12 alternatives
  Historical mailing list - Jeff Ensing
  Fri, 8 Sep 2006 13:08:48 EDT
  ...PS My R12a conversion has been working fine all summer and has not blown up yet! Yeah, Mine too! Talk is cheap but cold...