

| Subject: | Re: GL4/GL5? |
| From: | Dominique Cormann |
| Date: | Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:29:45 -0500 |
GL 4 and GL 5 refer to different API performance categories. VW suggests a GL 4 for that transmission. Some people think that since a GL 5 is an oil designed to take even more load, it should be better right? Wrong. In this case you must examine the additive package closely. Most products use sulfur based EP additives. Sulfur is a great EP additive, but is corrosive ( thats actually part of how it works, but thats a different topic ). On gears this corrosive nature is okay. So GL5 oils are mainly used for differentials. Manual transmissions have synchro's, and brass is not as tolerant to the corrosive nature of the sulfur. So trannies use GL4's. http://www.lubrizol.com/referencelibrary/readyreference/15-gears/gearclass.htm You can read about it above and here below: http://www.lubrizol.com/referencelibrary/readyreference/15-gears/geartext.htm You can chuck this bit of logic out the window though if the oil your using is based on a boron based additive. Chevron makes a few gear oils that use boron...its a GL-4, GL-5, MT1 ( the highest category), but sicne it uses boron, your synchro's are even safer. This kind of additive package is the absolute best to use. It produces less wear then sulphur based additive packages. However chevron only uses it in mineral oil based oils. However, even in the mineral based version it meets all the extended oil drain specs that only synthetic gear oils do. Consider it. Unless you live somewhere really cold. Nissan uses them for racing...and I've seen pictures of the gear boxes torn down. Less wear then when they used Mobil synthetic products! If only Chevron made a synthetic version with this additive package...but they don't because even in mineral form it still beats the synthetic competition. ( except in super cold climates - alaska, NWT, yukon etc ). Otherwise, Redline MTL and MT-90 are the only synthetic GL 4 oils on the market. Its cold where I am, ( -20c outside last night, and been that way for the last few weeks ). So I went the redline route. If I lived somewhere warmer though...I would use the chevron product. Chevron delo trans fluid ESI ( esi is the extended oil drain time oils they market ). Just ask the dealer if its the product based on boron. You'll know because its the only mineral based transmission oil that also meets the EATON 750,000 mile oil drain time spec. On Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:13:12 -0500 Blue Ridge CycleWorks <brbikes@RICA.NET> wrote: > The other day I recall a reference that made me believe that I should use > GL4 but not GL5 in the tranny (1981 Westy, 4 speed manual) Why not? What > does the numbering refer to? I will soon be switching to synthetic and only > want to do it once. > Thanks in advance. > Myron Lind > 81 Westy -- ============================================================--------- Dominique Cormann Email: kozmik@home.com Homepage: http://kozmik.guelph.on.ca Diesel page: http://kozmik.guelph.on.ca/gtdproject 84 Rabbit D - daily driver 84 Rabbit GTD - work'in on it
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