In Canada, they sell gas line anti-freeze in small bottles.

It is nothing but methyl hydrate (methanol).

Marshall Ruskin
-----Original Message-----
From: Thom Singer <ntsqd@MAIL.CSUCHICO.EDU>
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [VWPICKUPS] Fw: Kleen-Flo Diesel Conditioner

>We occasionally had a problem with the methanol used in the Top Alcohol
>Dragster I crewed on picking H2O out of the air. We were very careful to
>always cap the fuel jugs as soon as we were thru pouring it into the
>car. Bob would test the specific gravity of every jug's fuel b4 we left
>for a race. I don't know what the threshhold number he looked for was,
>but if it was off, we poured that fuel into the can for the lawn mower.
>(Yes he has an alcohol fueled lawn mover, he got tired of driving into
>town to get gasoline for it when he had all this alcohol about.)
>
>So it makes sense to me that you could use alcohol to 'dry' diesel or
>gasoline. Consider how H2O attractive the glycol used in brake fluid is
>and how really chemically close it is to fuel alcohols and all this
>makes further sense.
>
>FWIW, Carroll Smith advises that all salemen's claims be multiplied by
>.25
>
>--
>TS
>Chico, CA
>
>Ours go to eleven.
>
>
>Dominique Cormann wrote:
>>
>> Got word back from Kleenflo regarding the alcohol issue.
>>
>> The guy is in marketing, so I'll forgive his ignorance about canada and
>> the fact that we are only allowed to use low sulfur diesel here since
>> 1994. He didn't seem to be aware thats is a law here...oh well. But he
>> explained the other issues with the alcohols with similar logic to what
>> others have explained. Thank you guys for writing about your experiences
>> with different alcohols used as additives in the diesel fuel. It nows
>> seems fairly clear to me that the alcohol works effectively at absorbing
>> water, and thawing gelled fuel or working as an antigell if it hasn't
>> froze. It also looks like people should be looking for isopropyl alcohol
>> based products or glycol based products as opposed to methanol (methyl
>> hydrate), but even in a pinch this stuff could be used...
>>
>> Now I'm hoping Power service will write back. I'm interested in hearing
>> what they have to say. Curious if they will deny the obvious, or if they
>> admit it, how they will explain why the bottle says what it says.
>>
>> Forwarded by Dominique Cormann <kozmik@home.com>
>> ---------------- Original message follows ----------------
>>  From: chris <chris@kleenflo.com>
>>  To: kozmik@home.com
>>  Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:20:50 -0500
>>  Subject: Kleen-Flo Diesel Conditioner
>> --
>>
>> Dear Dominique,
>>
>> Thank-you for your e-mail and your interest in Kleen-Flo products.
>> Please find below the answers to your questions.
>>
>> -There are safe alcohols and not so safe alcohols.  Methyl Hydrate is a
>> widely used alcohol that burns extremely hot and can have adverse
>> affects on injectors, seals and internal parts.  Isopropanol Alcohol is
>> far safer and is an active ingredient in our two diesel conditioners.
>> It helps to absorb moisture and lower the pour point of diesel fuel.
>> Kleen-Flo also adds cleaning agents, lubricators and anti-corrosion
>> additives.
>>
>> -The main differences between our two diesel conditioners is one is
>> designed for low sulphur diesel fuel and the treatment ratio.  The
>> regular conditioner treats 2270litres and the low sulphur formula treats
>> 500litres.
>>
>> -Low sulphur diesel fuel was introduced in California in the mid 80's.
>> It was developed to help decrease the amount of emissions from diesel
>> engines.  The only side effect was that it dried out fuel pumps.  Hence
>> the need for low sulphur formula additives and conditioners.  In Canada
>> the availability of low sulphur fuel is different from town to town.
>> Esso for example sells low sulphur diesel fuel exclusively.
>>
>> -Kleen-Flo's new Diesel Lubricant(2L treats 3000L) is designed
>> specifically to combat the effects of low sulphur diesel fuel.  It can
>> be mixed with our other products and should be used all year round.  It
>> is not as affective as our other products in absorbing water and line
>> freezing.
>>
>> -OEM's are finally acknowledging that there is a problem with low
>> sulphur fuel and are starting to recommend the use of additives such as
>> Kleen-Flo's.
>>
>> Should you have any other questions or require further technical
>> information, please feel free to contact me at 1-800-216-7778 ext.238,
>> or at chris@kleenflo.com.
>>
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Chris Osborne
>> Marketing Manager
>