

| Subject: | Re: [Syncro] Welding up 16" rear trailing arms - PICTURES ANYONE??? |
| From: | David Marshall |
| Date: | Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:21:00 -0800 |
Derek and the rest of the list, Does the trailing arm have to be lengthened by 20mm or does it have to get moved out as well? I am taking delivery of a 1986 Vanagon this weekend for parts and my fabrication guys can certainly do a great job at this - mind you - if someone else wanted a set of trailing arms I would make you sign your life away - I would trust my life to their work, but, just in case, I want to keep my house if something does go wrong. Does anyone have a picture of the modifications - as they say - a pictures tells a 1000 words. I would be inclinded to think that you would neatly cut ( not with a sawzall!! ) the plate with the four drilled and tapped holes that you mount the break / bearing assembly to off of the trailing arm and reweld it on 20mm towards the back for the increased distance. Again, I would really like to see a picture! At 02:50 PM 15/02/2000 -0500, Derek Drew wrote: >From: Derek Drew <drew@interport.net> > >Ok everybody. Our knowledge of the issue of special rear trailing arms has >progressed to the point that I think we now know what needs to be done to >get these things. > >Option A: Buy new trailing arms from a German VW dealer for about $2,600. >(including shipping) > >Option B: Have someone on the list who is credible and known to us go into >the 16" trailing arms business. > >It turns out that all SDP does to make these is to cut the factory trailing >arms (think Sawzall) and then welding in a box shaped piece of metal to >extend their length. > >We need somebody on the list to become an expert in the fabrication of >these (think: super safe overkill engineering/welding). > >The operation should be exceedingly simple: > >1. Cut rear trailing arm with sawzall > >2. Install two halfs into a jig that keeps the alignment exactly the same >as before, but so there is a 2.5" (?) space between the cut halves. > >3. Slide a huge piece of square heavy metal into the spaces in both halves >and then weld this in place. > >Who would like to become the first USA manufacturer of these? > >It would seem that the job itself is exceedingly simple, and would cost, >say, 1/20th as much as the dealer option. > >>X-Sender: smitht@pop.unb.ca >>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) >>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:40:37 -0400 >>To: Derek Drew <drew@interport.net> >>From: Tim Smith <smitht@unb.ca> >>Subject: Re: [Syncro] tires/gears/speeds/RPM spreadsheet >> >> >If this is true, then possibly I boobed things by getting the 6.17 gears >> >instead of 5.xxs. >> >>never!! can't go too low. Try changing the 4th gear ratio to Weddles 0.70 >>version, for the 31" tires. I'm curious too! >> >> >hitting the battery box and I am not sure I want to find alternate >> >locations for the batteries. If your math is correct, and my 31" maximum >> >>Hmmmm, stiffer/taller springs would easily shift the suspension downward >>another 3", can't see that being much of a problem clearing the boxes. >>Need a computer drawing/model to mess with and check fits. >> >> >> >> >size is correct, then I would have strange gearing: my top speed on the >> >highway will be 65mph or something? Yuk. I'd rather not drive on the >> >highway above 3900 rpm because I noticed that the oil temp goes up a lot by >> >the time you hit 4000. >> >>Yup, I like 3200, needle at 12 o'clock seems correct to me. At higher RPMs >>the oil in sump is likely being flailed about by the crank, hence the extra >>heating (and some power loss) >> >> >I don't mind cutting and welding the rear trailing arms as per the recent >> >email on the syncro list. The implication is that that is all SDP does >>anyway. >> >> >>Gotta watch this. OK to do but you have to re-heat treat to restore >>strength. Essentially a controlled cooling down period so the metal >>regains it's proper strength. Typically cut/MIG weld, then take oxy-acet >>torch and heat entire region to dull red. this lets any local highly >>stressed areas 'relax' and get rid of the warpage stresses due to the >>initial welding. Then the cool down to make sure the alloy strength gets >>back to the factory design strength. >> >> >>bye, Tim > >_______________________________________________ >Derek Drew New York, NY >CEO & Co-Founder >www.ConsumerSearch.com >80 South Street, 2nd Floor >New York, NY 10038 >drew@interport.net >212-580-6486 > >Alternate numbers for the industrious phone caller that wants to try every >avenue: 917-848-6425 (cell); 202-966-7907 (Work), 212-580-4459 (Home), >202-966-0938 (Home). > > > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >FREE ADVICE FROM REAL PEOPLE! Xpertsite has thousands of experts who >are willing to answer your questions for FREE. 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