I just bought 2 myself and they are extremely nice.  Thinking of mounting
one on the passenger side door panel front just behind the speaker on my 90
Carat.  Only problem with these is that thy can not handle a regular coffee
mug because the ring section or top support does not have a split to
accommodate the handle.  Hey, nothing's perfect.  By the way, got delivery
to Chicago in 2 days.

Ed
90 Carat 169K
90 Carat 67K

From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf Of
Leif
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 11:10 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Awesome cupholders

I just received my new cupholders that I ordered from Griots Garage,
www.griotsgarage.com , They are really cool. Just opening and closing them
is fun.  German engineering all the way.  Their website says these are used
in the MB 500SL.  there is a stamp on them that reads "fischer CBOX".  They
feel very sturdy.  When folded, measures 4 3/4" length x  4" width  x 1 1/2"
height.  Will hold a 12 oz can up to 1 liter bottle. You can install them
with double sided adhesive tape or with the include mounting hardware (looks
like black sheet metal screws, very permanent)  Very clear instructions are
included.    There aren't cheap, $40 for 2 including shipping.  IMO they are
the last cupholders I will have to buy and I have been through a few.  The
link to the page is
http://www.griotsgarage.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/products_on_line_fs.htm?L
+mystore+jklk9502+952081042  If you are interested I have some pix I can
p-mail you.

Leif
'86 Syncro GL
'93 EV MV