

| Subject: | Re: upper control arm |
| From: | harald_nancy |
| Date: | Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:00:59 -0800 |
Hmmm.... interesting. I got the bushings from my local vw parts (non-dealer) specialist shop. The bushings do look the same as the originals did, but back then I didn't have a chance to compare the part numbers with the replacement parts. It says on the outside plastic ring: "elastmetall" 202346 LME Germany 251407077 Actually, if you think about it, the rubber inside isn't thick enough to flex through such a wide range, like maybe a 1/2 turn of the inner shaft. If it was bonded on both sides, just jacking up your car could make it rip. To be 100% sure what it looks like inside, you probably have to cut one in half or find more info from the manufacturer. Harald '90 westy ---------- > From: Stuart MacMillan <stuart@COBALTGROUP.COM> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: upper control arm > Date: Friday, March 10, 2000 10:21 AM > > This doesn't sound like a stock bushing. The Bilstein replacements I > got from the Bus Depot have a 1/2" rubber core bonded to the inner and > outer sleeves, same as the original. Nothing spins free, and that is the > way all rubber suspension bushings I have ever seen are > constructed--dry! What did you get for the replacements? I wouldn't > use anything but the Bilsteins. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: harald_nancy [mailto:harald_nancy@EARTHLINK.NET] > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 7:42 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: upper control arm > > > > Cross section of upper control arm bushing: > > I was asking before if anyone ever cut one in half. I guess not. > > Took the right ctrl arm to the shop today and had 2 new bushings > > pressed in and spot welded. Cost me a hundred bucks. > > Took the old ones (2 yrs, 25,000 miles) home and sliced one with > > a hack saw in half. > > It looks like this: > > The inner shaft has about 1/8" thick rubber bonded to it. > > The outer housing has a nylon liner (about 1/16"). > > The liner has grooves that fit into the outside housing grooves, > > so the liner itself does not turn. > > The rubber on the inner shaft is NOT bonded to the outside housing. > > There is a thin layer of grease between the rubber and the outside > > nylon > > liner. > > The inside shaft can rotate freely. > > Bushing looks like it's in perfect shape. > > But I'm pretty sure it was squeaking anyway. > > At this point, I assume that one of them was defective, perhaps not > > enough rubber grease. And that's possibly why it was squeaking. > > Tomorrow I'll install the upper swing arm with the new bushings. > > I agree new springs might help, but I'm not ready for that yet. > > I also suspect the upper rubber spring seat. Anyone try that? > > > > The local vw mechanic was wrong when he told me the rubber is > > bonded to the inside and outside part of the bushing. > > I was suspicious, because it doesn't mention in the Bentley > > anywhere that the van has to rest on its wheels when tightening > > the upper ctrl arm nut. > > Harald Rust > > '90 westy
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