In a message dated 3/14/00 2:57:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,
busguy123@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< His name is Vic Ahmed and he used to be very highly regarded on
 the Vanagon List as a pioneer in VW van restorations here on the West coast
 for many, many, many years now. As a matter of fact, I first met him in 198
>>

did he put you up to this?  ;<)