The member's of this list (not all ) have finally lost it !
Not that I'm a puritanical type, but the unmitigated, irreputable, talk
of firearms,carried within the confines of one's vanagon, is medieval !!
I myself have mounted, just below the upper grill, one on each side,
flame thrower nozzles.
Much more efficient.
Sterilizes the  path in the direction I'm
traveling.
"I love the smell of napalm in the morning"

Terry

85 GL