

| Subject: | Re: A/C refrigerant oil quantities |
| From: | Marshall Ruskin |
| Date: | Tue, 23 May 2000 01:07:38 -0500 |
>Hi, >What if I want to up grade to R134a? How does one flush out the old >lubricant (since the lube for R-12 and R-134a is different and incompatible)? Not entirely - a small amount of the old oil will always remain, and is good, actually, as it serves as a barrier to prevent R-134A from passing through the hose. To flush out the old oil, get the tech to blow the system with nitrogen - tons of oil will be expelled. I saw mine being done - wow! Basically, do this for the conversion: Before making a swap, Go to a AC mech, have him vaccuum-evacuate the old system - if he blows it to the atmosphere, don't pay him - and report him to the EPA. Have him pressurize the system with nitrogen - then blow the old oil. Then have him lightly pressurize the system with nitrogen. Do your swap, release compressor fittings - wear heavy gloves!!!!!!!!. Go back to shop, have him connect new compressor, install new O-rings, new receiver-dryer. Have him pressure and vaccuum test it with nitrogen, then draw a hard vaccuum and pump in the r-134a and oil. Have him test for leaks and proper pressures. (BTW: If he didn't know to do all of the above steps, he doesn't know his job very well.) You're done. If you want a system that is going to last and not leak, only a ac mech can do the above. Marshall Ruskin 84 Westy, converted by military ac mechs to r-134a last year. > I recently pulled a radiator/condser assembly out of a Vanagon and was >surprised at how much lubricant was "up front." I'm going to be interfacing >the Vanagon's A/C system to my new Subaru engine/R-134a compressor. Kennedy >(who is a nice guy, I drove up to his shop to meet him last week) never >connected the two systems together as he couldn't find a local shop that >could make up the hoses needed. He's up in the high desert where there is >just not the same available resources as there is in the Orange/Los Angeles >basin. I'm just getting to this part of the project. Also, in reading up on >A/C systems, Vintage Air, of Texas, says that the Hoses used for R-134a >systems has an extra barrier as the gas will permeate through hose used for >R-12. The VW service bulletin on R-134a upgrade doesn't address this issue, >is that because the cost would be prohibitive? Or is this it a non-issue >with the Aero-quip hoses that were used on the Vanagons? If the gas does >seep through the hoses, how often should one expect to have to check/add gas? > Has anyone worked through any of these issues? I've read many times of >Ken's recommendation of using Freeze 12 and if I was going to use a R-12 >compressor I would explore that route. Since, I have a R-134a compressor I >would rather stick with the R134a. Thoughts anyone? > >Cheers, >Kevin Dawson >87" Wolfie 1/2 Camper >
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