

| Subject: | Re: Subaru vs. VW Swap |
| From: | David Marshall |
| Date: | Mon, 22 May 2000 13:56:14 -0700 |
I have a customer who is installing a 1998 Passat 1.8T in to his Vanagon. He is going to leave it stock for now, but a chip will bump it to 180hp. Switching to the larger K04 turbo and a different chip will give you 240hp. The problem with the chips and larger turbos is it destroys the flat torque "curve" these engines have. MAXIMUM torque is a constant 155 ft /lbs between 1750 and 4600 RPM, giving you an incrediable 4000 rpm between when the torque is at it's maximum to when the hosepower is at it's maximum - one sweet motor in a Vanagon - make that any car! Just for comparison sake a 2.1 wbx is 117ft/lbs@3200 and 90hp@4800 rpm and the TDI is 149ft/lbs@1900-2600 and 90hp at 4000 rpm. At 01:38 PM 20/05/2000 -0400, Marc Perdue wrote: >Okay, stupid question time, for tweakers only: > >Is the in-line 4 that you all are talking about the same 1.8L Turbo that comes >in current Passats? The same one that develops 150 HP @ 5700 RPM? The one for >which you can get a chip that'll take it up to a noisy 195(6?) HP? If it is, >has anyone put one of these in a Vanagon or Westy with the enhanced performance >chip? What kind of torque does this engine develop with the chip? Does anyone >here have, or know of, an internet presence where this type of stuff is >discussed at length so I won't have to bore the whole list with my curiosity? > >Thanks in advance for indulging me my questions, >Marc Perdue > >Dan Kinsey wrote: > >> I think these are all very valid points. Given my experience owning several >> Jetta's/Golf's/Passat's I can say from experience that the l4 engine is just >> about bullet proof. From what I am finding out about the cost of a *used* >> Subaru engine I think, for myself anyway, the l4 is the best way to go. >> >> In a message dated 5/20/00 12:55:24 AM Central Daylight Time, >> vanagon@volkswagen.org writes: >> >> << -- No bottom end torque as compaired to a 2.0L I4 or WBX >> -- Japanese engine in a German van >> -- The VW dealer will laugh at you if you come in for repairs >> -- The Subaru dealer will laugh at you if you come in for repairs >> -- A 2.0L I4 can easily make 130hp with a mild cam and a chip >> -- The VW engines can be fully serviced by the VW 1551/2 computer (assuming >> you get a used North American spec engine). >> -- VW I4 engines are cheaper than the Subaru engines. >> > > -- David Marshall - Volkswagen Enthusiast - Quesnel, BC, Canada -- -- 78 VW Rabbit, 80 VW Iltis, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westfalia -- -- 85 VW Cabriolet, 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 VW Syncro Double Cab -- -- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org -- -- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca -- -- david@volkswagen.org (pmail) or vanagon@volkswagen.org (list) --
Have something to add on this topic today? Revive this thread in the forum »