> The slogan for the school of SUV 'safety' design:  "Kill or be killed."

hot damn!! Road Warz!!! Death Race 2000 (which, by the by, is a funny
comedy, if you don't mind a lot of pedestrians getting killed and a really
really really stupid 'plot'. and some really bad acting by sylvester
stallone (i THINK it was his first movie)). :)

> Notice it says nothing about good brakes?  The Ford Expedition takes 220
> feet to stop from 70 MPH, the late 80's VW Jetta GLI, 175 feet. Any one
know >what the figures are for the Vanagon?

a syncro camper was tested at 70-0 in 191 feet. so us lighter weight
non-syncro non-campers should do a lot better. i THINK i recall like 184
feet, but it might have been lower.

actually, i don't worry so much about stopping before i hit the things in
front of me ... i worry more about that tailgating moron in the Ford
Expedition who's gonna take every bit of his 220 feet to stop!!! :(