I owned an '80 air-cooled for many years and now own '84 water-cooled. Both
campers, so "handling" may be a little different than a straight Vanagon.

'84 Westy - Pepe

The '84 definitely gives a smoother quieter ride than the '80. When I first got
it, I thought I
was driving a tall Jetta by comparison to the '80. I did have difficulty getting
stuck in some light mud and wet grass at first. I have since gotten some beefy
light truck tires (that's a whole 'nother thread) and that has helped. But the
gearing is definitely higher on this van and I am concerned about camping at
some of the places I used to frequent in the '80. I'm still a little intimidated
by the water-cooling - just another system to have to maintain and worry about.
However, being on this list for 6 months, reading the Bentley, and getting my
head under the lid at least once a week has made me feel a little more
comfortable with it. I do still have nightmares thinking of the po$$i$blitie$ of
a system failure. Personally, I feel that heat is overrated - nothing a good
warm coat and wool sweater can't handle. It's the defroster that I appreciate.
It is nice not to have to scrape ice off of the INSIDE of the windows in the
winter. : )

'80 Westy - Pokey

The '80 was a tank. Strong and sturdy. The lower gearing gave me greater
confidence when going off-road (yet a 'nuther thread) to find the perfect
campsite. This also made it a little slower. It could max out to 80mph, which
was fast enough for me. We traveled cross-country and back with only minor
difficulties and good luck in finding honest VW mechanics. When it's Pepe's time
to go to Vanagon Heaven I'll probably go back to an air-cooled.

That's my experiences.
Peace - donna
'84 Westy (Pepe)

Courtney Hook wrote:

> I'm sure this gets asked at least once a month, but please excuse me, I
> don't intend to start any arguments, just want some sage advice from those
> that have been there, done that.

> Please feel free to jump in and tell me about your knowledge and experience.