I have 3 manuals for my Scirocco, and 2 for my
Vanagon.
I start with the Chiltons pocket guide to FWD VW;s.
That gives me enough info to tear stuff apart.  Then I
go for the Haynes to put it back together.  Then i
break out the Bentley when all doesn't go as planned
(usually).  It's not uncommon to see all 3 open to the
same section on my workbench ;)

I don't think Haynes is all bad, and for my ex-T-Bird
and my g/friends ex-hyundai the chiltons was
absolutely unusable..  It intimidated me so much that
I was reluctant to get a Bentley, and took my vehicles
to the service department for months before I broke
out the wrenches...

The Haynes (UK) for watercooled vanagons is really
good for minor repairs, but even the Bentley leaves a
lot of stuff out....

--- Ken Nelson <bm30@uswest.net> wrote:
> The ones for a specific vehicle. Almost all the
> electrical, most of the
> suspension, any alignment specs just aren't there.
> And I was burned very
> badly once following a Haynes manual to put a timing
> belt in a Honda Civic
> (they had a bunch of unnessary steps in the wrong
> order AND the wrong torque
> values).And nearly got smoked again doing a head on
> a Hyundai.With a
> Windstar I've had to look to make sure I had the
> right book - it's that far
> off.
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Mages" <wasserbox@yahoo.com>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Plea for help (no Vanagon content)
>
>
> > What kind of Haynes did you get?  The only times
> my
> > Haynes has said 'take it to a shop', after I was
> done,
> > I found that I probably should have taken it to a
> > shop....
> >
> > Chiltons have historically been the most unhelpful
> > manuals I have ever attempted to use.  1000 pages,
> and
> > you have to hunt through them to find the tiny
> > diagrams with extrememly technical info that you
> don't
> > need...
> >
> > just M(not so)HO
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- Ken Nelson <bm30@uswest.net> wrote:
> > > Chilton's . Avaialble at about any parts store.
> Stay
> > > away from Haynes
> > > though. Haynes is not nessarily correct and the
> > > parts where you really need
> > > it it says take it in to a shop.
> > > Ken Nelson
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard Bias" <rbias@hotmail.com>
> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:51 AM
> > > Subject: Plea for help (no Vanagon content)
> > >
> > >
> > > > All,
> > > >   Thank you for reading this as this list is a
> > > life savor for people with
> > > > VW's.  I am a person with 2 VW's (currently,
> soon
> > > to be more hopefully)
> > > and
> > > > 1 Ford.  The Ford Escort Wagon decided to
> start
> > > peeing coolant from its
> > > > heater core.  I have the entire lower dash
> board
> > > in the back seat and I
> > > > still can't get the heater core out.  Can
> anyone
> > > point me to a Ford
> > > > "Bentley" equivalent or tell me how to get
> this
> > > freaking thing out?  Thank
> > > > you immensely!
> > > > Rich and Annemarie
> > > > 85 GL "Buba"
> > > > 98 Bug and a....
> > > > 94 Escort
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > Mark
> > Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean
> that anyone wants to hear
> it
> >
> > 87 Westfalia Gl
> > 84 Scirocco 8v
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Mark
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87 Westfalia Gl
84 Scirocco 8v
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