

| Subject: | Re: Auxillary battery installation follow-up (long) |
| From: | Bill Davidson |
| Date: | Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:12:37 -0700 |
Tom, Great Post! Thanks for keeping us informed... Now, could you please post us again in a year or so to let us know how that isolator is holding UP? Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Moritz" <tmoritz@bmi.net> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: Auxillary battery installation follow-up (long) > A little over a month ago I posted some e-mail describing an auxillary > battery system using Sure Power Industries' battery separator between the > chassis or starter battery and the auxillary battery. At that time I was > seeking anybody else's experience with this product. While I didn't get > any response detailing past experience I did get several e-mails asking me > to report back how my installation went. > > Sure Power Indust. manufacutures two models, the 1314 and 1315, which work > with 12V negative ground charging systems of 100 amps or less. These > separators allow multiple batteries to be charged from one charging source. > When the batteries are not being charged the batteries are isolated. This > prevents discharging the chassis battery when drawing power from the > auxillary battery. The battery separator also prioritizes charging. This > is where these two models differ. The 1314 is for systems with a single > charging source. This describes most vehicles. When the battery connected > directly to the charging source reaches approximatley 13.2V the separator > will close its high amperage contact connecting the auxillary battery in > parallel. The 1315 is the same except charging sources can be connected to > either the chassis or axillary battery. When would you want the 1315? I > purchased it in anticipation of adding flexible solar cells and/or an > inverter/charger to our electrical system. These charging sources would be > connected to the auxillary battery. With the 1315, when the auxillary > battery reaches 13.2V, the contact would close and the extra power would be > used to top off the chassis battery. The 1315 was only $5 more. Both > models also have spade terminals for an auxillary battery status lamp and > manual override switch. The battery status lamp is illuminated when the > auxillary battery has sufficient voltage to assist the chassis battery for > starting the vehicle. The manual override allows you to force the > separator to close the contacts and connect the batteries. (This turned > out to be quite handy as I explain later.) > > Installation: > > The first step after acquiring all the parts was to remove the driver's and > passenger seat and captains chair swivels. I probably didn't need to > remove the passenger seat but it made lifting the chassis battery out > easier. The next step was to remove enough of the sheet metal from under > the driver's seat to allow me to install the Optima deep cycle battery. I > was able to do this with a 3/4" hole saw to drill the corners and a small > electric jig saw with a heavy duty metal blade. A test fit of the Optima > battery confirmed there was enough room to mount both the battery and the > battery separator in the auxillary battery box. > > Next step was to drill holes in the bottom of each battery box. This is > the reason I had to remove the chassis battery. I lined the holes with > rubber gromets and ran a 5 foot length of 4Ga. battery cable from one > battery box to the other. I terminated both ends with a crimp on eye and > soldered it. I bolted the separator to the floor of the auxillary battery > box using self-tapping hex head screws. I then connected the chassis > battery (positive) to the battery separator primary terminal and the > auxillary battery (positive) to the battery separator secondary terminal. > (The primary and secondary terminal designation is not really important > with the 1315 model but very important with the 1314 model.) I also > installed a small normally open momentary pushbutton switch up on the front > of the seat pedestal where the driver can hold the button and turn the key > at the same time. This switch is connected to the start-signal and ground > terminals on the battery separator to manually close the contact. I also > installed a ground connection to the negative terminal of the auxillary > battery. Make sure you remove any paint from where you attach the > grounding lead to improve conductance. At this time I also replace the > chassis battery with a new one from the local NAPA auto parts store. > > With that all done I was ready to test the installation. Turn the key > and....nothing! I checked my wiring and the voltage of the batteries. The > new chassis battery was at 11.2V. Hmmm...must have been on the shelf for a > while. Okay, let's test the manual override switch on the separator. Push > and hold, turn the key and the engine comes to life. I would have taken it > for a drive at this point but the seats were still out so I kept the engine > at about 2000rpm with my volt meter hooked to the chassis battery. When > the voltage was up to 13V I shut the engine down and installed the seats. > She started up right away and I went out for a test drive. Everything > seemed fine so I went home and parked her. Later that afternoon I went out > to start her and....nothing! I checked all my wiring to make sure I didn't > have an unintentional ground. Everything was good according to my meter. > I figured the battery was severly discharged when I purchased it so I > rented a charger and hooked it up for a slow charge. Three hours later > things looked fine so I returned the charger figuring the chassis battery > just needed a full charge. The next morning she started but with > difficulty and I drove to work. After work she wouldn't start without > connecting the auxillary battery with the manual override. Well, I drove > right to the NAPA store, pulled the "new" chassis battery, and told them > the battery was bad. Well, the skeptically put the battery on their test > stand. First test - failed. Test again - failed. This time I asked them > to test the replacement battery before I left the store. Something to keep > in mind five years from now when it's time to replace the battery again. > Fortunatly the bad battery wasn't too much of an inconvenience because I > was able to start the engine using the auxillary battery and manual > override on the battery separator. > > I also hooked the fridge and water pump leads directly to the auxilary > battery instead of going through the relay which disconnected the DC when > the engine wasn't running. Now I can put the fridge on DC while we are > traveling and if we stop during the day I don't have to change over to > propane. I don't like to drive with the propane valve open in case of an > accident and I don't even know if our fridge will stay lit while driving. > > We've used this setup for about three weeks of camping this summer. The > system works very well. Before the heat exchanger would defrost during the > day because I wouldn't take the time to change over to propane if we were > only stopping for an hour or less. Now that isn't a issue. The fridge is > doing a much better job keeping things consistantly cool. > > Next phase is installing a low battery cutoff switch to protect the > auxillary battery. I have bought a product from Mobiletronix called > Voltminder. It is a solid state 15A/12VDC low voltage relay. This will go > between the auxillary battery and the camping equipment. The cutoff switch > will disconnect the battery from the camping equipment if the battery > voltage drops below 10.5V. It will turn on again once the voltage reaches > about 12.5V. While I don't expect to discharge our auxillary battery this > far intentionally I figured it was good protection in case the frige gets > left on DC for an extended period of time ie. after a long return trip home > and we are all very tired. I will let you know how this product works > after we've been using it for a while. > > Parts list: > > Battery separator - Sure Power Industries, Inc. 1314 or 1315. Web site: > http://www.surepower.com > > Auxillary battery - Optima Battery D900M. Web site: > http://www.optimabatteries.com > > Low voltage cutoff - Mobiletronix PC15A1VM. Web site: > http://www.mobiletronix.com - make sure you specify the a shutoff voltage > of 10.5 and reconnect voltage of 12.66V. They have a newer model with a > shutoff voltage of 11.5V. This is for applications where the battery has > to retain enough power to start the engine. > *********************************** > * * > * From the computer of: * > * Tom Moritz * > * * > *********************************** >
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