

| Subject: | Re: 22D ECU Chip Upgrade: CREDIT CARD ONLY AT THIS POINT- TIL 4PM EST MON 28t... |
| From: | Mark Dorm |
| Date: | Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:23:13 PDT |
Hey if this goes over well, would you be willing to do second run of ten chips if us late comers want to join the party??? >From: Robert Lilley <Wolfvan88@aol.com> >Reply-To: Wolfvan88@aol.com >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: 22D ECU Chip Upgrade: CREDIT CARD ONLY AT THIS POINT- TIL 4PM EST > MON 28t... >Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:32:59 EDT > >***************************************** >At this point, with the order being placed at 6 PM Monday the 28th, credit >card will only be accepted. > >***************************************** > >Info for those that missed it or did not read posts... > > > ...Chip is socketed (not soldered), so swap should not be any problem. >Just > > make sure precautions are taken to guard against ESD (electrostatic > > discharge). I think he mentioned there may be some sort of foil >shielding > > to clip through to get to the chip... > > > > > > ...****Your ECU module part number _must_ end in "022D". The chip will >not > > work otherwise. > > > > The chip can be run without rockers for about a 10% power boost, but >they > > _strongly_ recommended against running rockers without the chip. Yes, >you > > get a larger power boost but you will end will end up with a _very_ rich > > exhaust mixture. Apparently the airbox is 'overstimulated' with the >ratio > > rockers, and the _stock_ ECU cannot accurately process/calculate the >proper > > fuel ratios. The engine with the new chip (with/without ratio rockers) > > should still pass the sniff test (!). The chip should have sufficient > > capacity to handle additional headwork, cam changes and exhaust work >(but > > to what degree I did not fully explore). Even a three angle valve job > > would be a worthwhile improvement. Richard did wisely recommend a valve > > spring upgrade if one departs from the profile of the stock cam. They > > faxed me a dyno printout (actually, the exact same one scanned in at >Kyle > > Wade's website) which shows an increase of rear wheel horsepower from >about > > 58 horsepower (stock) to about 62 horsepower (new chip only). The chip > > with ratio rockers (1.4:1 I believe) gives about 85 horsepower at the > > wheel. This chip was originally designed to add to their Vanagon Truck > > used to tow their race car with tools, spares, etc, with their 'goal' >being > > a total increase of 10-15%. I guess they made it... > > > > > > > > > >I will need 10 buyers to confirm to making the purchase. >I am finding out the total cost, shipping, insurance from Australia to US. > >I have a computer business that takes credit cards and the chip is a >"computer upgrade." > >Options are: > >1) Buy the chip from the computer business. We would charge the credit >card >OR mail certified check to the computer business. Then the computer >business >will buy the lot of chips. When they arrive I will ship them to the >buyers, >with US postage. No sales tax unless you are in NC. > >2) If the company will do this. >Buyer calls Australia, orders chip. If we get 10 it will be lower price, >if >not @$60 more. After a period of ordering time, the company will send the >chips to me, who then will send then to individuals that ordered for the >cost >of shipping in US. > >3) You buy from the company and pay for international shipping rates. > >________________________________________________________ > >Questions about the ECU Chip Upgrades- Answered.... > >Performance Enhancements-DO they WORK and what will happen to my engine > >I am writing this message from a computer in Bozeman, Montana. I will be >home later to fully respond to the number of emails that I have received. > > >The main question is WHAT is the ECU chip upgrade going to do to my >engine??? > >Simply put, your engine will run better... > >Why you ask? > >The way the ECU responds to the various sensor signals is changed. >Rather than start the engine lean and use the various sensors to correct >the >mixture to the proper ratio, as VW does, the Australian company, starts the >mixture rich and use the sensors to correct the mixture to achieve the >proper >ratio. > >What will the effect then be on the engine? > >On a stock engine without the ratio rockers, there will be a small benefit, >The engine will be able to make its power easier. >If you add ratio rockers or other modifications, there will be a greater >proportional increase in power. > >Consider a box that two people are pushing. One person can just push the >box >with all its strength and the other can push the box easily. The one that >is >pushing the box at the upper limits of their power will not be able to push >as efficiently as the other will. > >I had a customized T4 2L engine in my 73' VW Bus. It had a Porsche 914 >hydraulic performance cam, Modified 914 racing exhaust, electronic ignition >AND DUAL- DUAL Throat 36mm Dellorto carburetors. I was getting @20 mpg at >@70 mph. The power was OK. I switched to LARGER 40mm carburetors. You >would expect the mileage to decrease, BUT it increased to 30 mph at @70mph. >It increased because the larger carburetors made the engine run more >efficiently. I did not have to have my foot in the gas as long to get up >to >speed. > >In the same way, the ECU Chip should not decrease the mileage but maintain >or >even increase the mileage, Because the engine can now run more efficiently. >The improvements made to the WBX engine have increased the power, the >reliability and the efficiency all with an INCREASE in mileage. > > >Will the life of my engine be cut short with the new chip? > >No, not unless you start driving like a mad person! The life of the engine >can actually be increased. You would not have to run the RPMs up, shifting >as high to increase speed. The engine can run cooler because it is not in >such a lean, heat producing state. >If you plan to add the chip, make sure all the FI parts are in good working >order along with the engine. > >If you add the 1.25 ratio rockers, there could be some increased wear on >the >valve guides if swivel valve adjusters are not used. The 1.4 rockers have >a >offset arm so the valve guide should be similar to stock wear. > >I had my cam lift increased and added Rhino 1.25 ratio rockers with Rhino >swivel rocker adjusting screws (911 style) Rather than go to 1.4 rockers. > > >While adding just the ECU chip will get you a small increase in power (Some >want just a small increase in power) If you want to gain additional HP add >the various bolt on items discussed- air filter, muffler, ratio rockers, >quad >tip plugs, synthetic oil in engine and tranny. Still not enough, when >rebuild >time > port intake, exhaust, increase cam one step, maybe two, counterweight >crank, >balance engine. > >90>100>115>130+ > > >_________________________________________________________ > > I have not added the chip yet. > I wanted to add the modifications to my engine before the chip to see if >I >would need the chip. After running the modifications for 26,000 miles, >while >they run good, I think that the chip will enhance what Ihave done. > I think that On a stock engine, unless the chip changes your current >driving >habits, there should not be a change for the worse in mileage. The engine >will still be running at the correct ratio, but will be able to run better. > I have raised my mileage from 18 mph to @25 mpg on flat to moderately >hilly >@75 mph while increasing my power. In the engine, I changed only the cam to >a >slightly bigger lift and duration increase and added ratio rockers. The >rest >is basically stock. > I have been in email contact with the designer of the chip and thay have >been using it in their delivery vanagon for about 6 years now with no >troubles. > > >________________________________________________________ > >http://www.volks-motorsports.com/Chips-Rockers.html > >Here is the link to Dyno test results. > > >You can run the chip without rockers to get a boost in power. > > >____________________ > > ><< Is this the same chip that we were > going around about a couple of years ago? >> > >Yes, I have started to look for the supplier a few months ago. I had >forgotten about the discussion. I ran across the chip when I went to the >wrong year on the list and found the message and the web address. > ><<Are the rocker arms needed and where are they available? >> > >The company said that the chip will work without the rockers. It will give >a >boost in power. > ><<Who was spearheading this in the past and are you satisified with their >experience?>> > >I do not know if there was a person doing a group purchase in the past, >just >finding out info about the chip. > > >__________________________________ > > >The total cost for > >1 chip $450.00 Aussie @0.59 equals USD $265.00 >10 chips $3500.00 Aussie @0.59 equals USD $2065.00 >to be mailed to > >Freight and Insurance $90.00 Aussie or @0.59 equals USD $53.00 for the 10 >chips > >one chip would be approx $15.00 Aussie or @0.59 equals USD 9.00 > >so USD $274.00 for 1 chip or >USD $2118.00 for 10 chips OR $211.8 each plus shipping to you in US > >_______________________________________________ > > >Here is some additional info with an article to follow as soon as I get it. > >.... > In our experience we have not seen any loss of fuel consumption, however >our > customers have noted in many cases, better fuel consumption, but as you >know >it > always depends on how you drive and of course road conditions, either >city >of country driving etc etc. Once again too many variables. > > We have an article from one of our customers, who wrote to one of the >Australian Volkswagen magazines a few years ago praising the component. > > We will endeavor to retype or scan the message on an email to you ASAP. >Great > work getting 7 buyers. > > Dave VVDS.... > > >___________________________ > > >The current price is $211.80 plus shipping to you. > >I have asked David to write a receipt for each person for a cash sale. >This >way each purchase is under the @$400 US duty free limit. > >If you can, sent a cashiers check rather than a credit card (It costs my >company 2% per CC transaction, if you need to OK) > >Once all the money is here, I will place the order on my credit card for >the >purchase. Then once the chips are here I will then mail them to each of >you. > >I do not know what the exchange rate will be in a week, possibly stay the >same or Up or down. > >If you send $230, it will cover the chip cost plus the shipping costs and >any >remaining I will send back to you. If it comes out to be more I would like >for you to send me the additional amount. > >Hopefully, I will be able to take some digital PICS to aid the instructions >and clarify if needed. > >I will then finally have my car Dyno'ed for the results before and after. > >If any of you need references I have a few from those that I have sold >parts >to in the past. >Here are 3: > >KENWILFY@AOL.COM traded 2.1L airbox for waterpump. > >hajasz@earthlink.net Steve Hajasz bought used 2.1 head > >gstearns@sprintmail.com Gary Stearns bought some Vanagon lowered springs > > > >What I have read and been told, that it should not be a problem. If ratio >rockers are added, then you will not pass emissions if you do not have the >chip. The chip alone adds @10% power, more if you make other changes to the >engine. > >3. What is the price? > >The group price is going to be @$211.80 + shipping to you from me. The >actual cost of the chip depends on the current exchange rate w/Australia. > >Others are sending me a MO for $230 and the remaining from purchase will be >sent back with chip. > >I have 16 confirmed buyers and a few other possibles. >David will still give us the low price. >The current price is $211.80 plus shipping to you. > >I have asked David to write a receipt for each person for a cash sale. >This >way each purchase is under the @$400 US duty free limit. > >If you can, sent a cashiers check rather than a credit card (It costs the >company 2% per CC transaction, if you need to OK) > >Once all the money is here, I will place the order on my credit card for >the >purchase. Then once the chips are here I will then mail them to each of >you. > >I do not know what the exchange rate will be in a week, possibly stay the >same. Up or down. > >If you send $230, it will cover the chip cost plus the shipping costs and >any >remaining I will send back to you. If it comes out to be more I would like >for you to send me the additional amount. > >Hopefully, I will be able to take some digital PICS to aid the instructions >and clarify if needed. > >I will then finally have my car Dyno'ed for the results before and after. > >If any of you need references I have a few from those that I have sold >parts >to in the past. > >Robert > >919-556-8639 H >919-510-6854 W > >Robert Lilley >1124 Buttercup Lane >Wake Forest, NC 27587 > >_____________________________________ > >Robert ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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