

| Subject: | Re: At long last protype waterbox bleeding, draining and purging installed and operating |
| From: | Mark Dorm |
| Date: | Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:55:51 PDT |
>From: "Jonc" <jonc@webgears.com> >I have made some modifications to the 1.9 WBX cooling system... >First I installed a valve in the lower hose of the radiator which >allows >for draining and filling... [filling using a pump] >Then I installed a small automatic vent in the spot where the radiator > >vent bolt used to be... Where did you get this small automatic vent? Whats the part number? Who makes it? You're not worried that it will fail at some point? >Then I installed a vent in each of the hoses on the back wall of the > >engine compartment right next to the odd little plastic vent that VW > >installed.. >With these small modifications I am able to get all the air out of the > >system with no problem .... The van can be flat on the ground and does > >not have to be run to filled... I have drained and filled the system > >many times at this point and have never had the flashing low water >idiot >light on the temp gage come on even for a second... Not even when you start it up??? >The van runs at 85 degrees C where the thermostat opens and never >varies even when idling for and hour in the 100 degree heat here in >South >Florida... Would you or have you used water wetter in this? If I recall right, the BMW thermistat I have (which is paired with a matched fan switch) is marked as 80 degrees C. >It is my opinion that it is not possible to get all the air out >of the system as designed by VW... It is just not a well vented >system... >The cooling system is plenty big enough to cool under any >ambient >condition. .....IF you can get all the air out.... >I can and do ... >One of the secretes of venting the air is filling slowly from the >bottom >valve with a small pump... the air is displaced out the vents >almost >totally.... As the coolant starts coming out of each vent you >shut it down >until the last thing open is the radiator or the >expansion tank when that >is full... Run the van up to temp and watch >the expansion tank... It may >loose 2 inches when running the first >time... If the temp is already up >just crack the cap on the expansion >tank and that water will vent ... As >soon as that happens retighten >the cap... Do you have any air in the expansion tank (is that the right word for it: I don't mean the overflow tank) - Is it completely full of nothing but water and coolant and no air space??? >Then drive the van as you like you are done...The automatic vent at >the >radiator will vent small amounts of air... Without this automatic vent installed where would the air otherwise go and how would you deal with it??? >You only have to keep the reservoir full of coolant... I check mine and >fill as needed, which is not very often maybe once a month... >Jonc >From: "Mark Dorm" <mark_hb@hotmail.com> > > >So whats been going on with this project of yours??? Are you on the > > >verge of making a cooling system that will allow us to run our > >waterboxers 500,000 miles between rebuilds??? > > > > > > >From: Jonc <jonc@webgears.com> > > > > > >the prototypical parts have been manufactured and installed in a > > >1985 Westfalia... The original system was completely drained of > > >coolant the conventional way... Three vents and one combination > >purge >valve, drain valve and refill valve [four components] have > >been >installed according to design by Riverside Precision Motors > >in Hartland >Vermont... >________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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