

| Subject: | Re: Iron Butt/Iron Bus, Tii conversion (long) |
| From: | Thomas Czerniak |
| Date: | Tue, 5 Sep 2000 08:08:08 -0500 |
This is the kind of post that is a big help. Pertinent and first hand information about an option for Vanagon owners with high miles. I just wanted to say Thanks to Ed for the info. I am going the TiiCo route and like to hear good reviews. I have friends who have done conversions from scratch,ala diesel, and I have liked what I have seen ,The turnkey nature of Tiico 's kit is definitely icing on the cake! Tom Czerniak ed wrote: > > Like the tire discussion, the engine conversion discussion ebbs and > flows. I start my whole Vanagon shopping intending to eventually do > either a Eurospec, Audi, or Subaru to a Syncro in order to meet our > all-weather school bus plans. Along the way, the Eurospec thing > imploded, Audis didn't look orders of magnitude better than an I4, and I > decided to keep it all German. A Lilley-spec WBX just didn't float my > boat, althoug it's a good solution. The 3.2L 911 was considered > seriously, as was the 1.8T and 1.9TD. And maybe some others not so > seriously. > > I bought an 86 Syncro from Joe Gunyan, which promptly developed a head > leak (drop a line if you want the whole story!). So the question of a > new engine was no longer academic. After discussing a lot of > alternatives with Karl Mullendore, I ended up buying a 2L conversion > package from Peter B at Tiico. Had it shipped to Karl's shop, and he > set to installing it. He'll fill you in with the highs and lows, I'm > sure, so I'll cover driving experience. > > I pressured Karl into having the van finished for a trip I needed to > take from VA to the PA mountains, where I was pulling an engine from > buddy Walt's Merkur parts car so he can clean up his property. Karl was > a great sport and willingly went all out to meet my schedule. I think > he was a little trepidatious to let the van go untested on this long > trip, but hey, the customer's always right, even if he risks being an idiot. > > Overall impression: This thing rocks. Karl is awesome. The Tii > package seems to have been worth it. > > Late Friday afternoon we looked over the van, gave Karl a check, loaded > the kids and the old motor into it and drove right from Karl's place W > of Frederick to my folks' place near Philly. I got up at 5AM Saturday, > and headed for somewhere W of Wilkes-Barre PA, picking up my friend Adam > on the way. Got to the mountains, pulled the engine & trans (note to > self, next time make sure the car is on a concrete slab before > volunteering, or get mud tires for engine crane), and headed home with > Merkur engine in Walt's truck. Birthday party for my Dad on Sunday, and > drove home Monday by way of Salem, NJ, where we dropped the old WBX off > with new owner Ken Wilfy. 750 miles, 3 days, new & non-stock engine. > God watches over fools and children, I like to think I qualify for both. > I also had a chase car to and from NJ, and on the way down from the > mountains - I'm foolish, but not totally stupid! > > Adam said it all on the way back from the moutains: "Fix the lighter, > it's the new Bluesmobile." > > Unlike the various tales of Eurospec woe, my Tii Syncro performed > flawlessly. Electricals were fine. There's the tiniest buzz at 3800+/- > rpm that I think we can quash, but nothing like what I've heard about ES > noises. The van cruises at 65-70 with only a finely-tuned hum. Starts > instantly, idles well, revs willingly. Looks like VW put it in there > (until you notice the slight bandsaw marks on the adapter plate :-) ). > > The WBX has it in one place - you can feel the I4 at idle, and seems to > have a bit less low-end grunt. That said, the deep 1st gear gets you up > on the cam quick, and the van moves out smartly. The WBX sounds a > little better at low revs, too. The I4, though, sounds like a good > sewing machine when it gets rolling :-) That sewing machine had me > passing people on the highway. Up hills. With 2 big guys, tools, > hardware-that-cannot-be-named-on-the-list, and a WBX inside for good > measure. I would prefer more low-end grunt, but the fact that this > engine runs so well with a wide powerband makes up for it. The gear > spacing on the trans means that you want to keep the revs up, anyway. > Shift at 32-3500 and you're suddenly down in the teens, where the torque > is OK unless you need to get somewhere. > > I do have a fuel tank leak to fix, but that's unrelated to the Tii > package. Thus, I couldn't fill enough to check mileage for sure, but I > know I put 11 gallons in before I left NJ, and went about 180 miles and > the needle has not yet hit the place it was when I filled. I'm guessing > 20mpg, more or less. Since I'd done my 500 miles of constantly varying > break-in driving, I cruised home at about 65-70, so I'm pleased with the > fuel economy. The van will easily do 80, but I didn't see why it should :-) > > All in all, I think it's a winner. Good acceleration, good fuel > economy, so the performance envelope is increased in all directions. > Not cheap, but they don't call the Vanagon the 911 of minivans for > nothing :-). The Tii kit, while not exactly a drop-in on a Syncro, was > worthwhile IMO. No cheaper than buying/scrounging everything yourself, > but comes in one box, fits under the deck, has a warrantee, and a > zero-time engine and computer to boot. I should recoup about 3/4 of the > installation costs from selling the old parts - anyone need a Digifant box? > > I thoroughly endorse Karl's work. He's *exceedingly* thoughful and > thorough, and did several upgrades to the install that I wouldn't have > done myself even if I'd had the time to do the job - best of all is the > fact that he fitted a modified diesel oil filler tube. I have the only > Tii conversion that doesn't require lifting the decklid to add oil to... > If you are anywhere in range of his shop, I strongly encourage you > check him out. > > FWIW, I'm not related to either Peter or Karl, nor do I have any > interest, blah blah blah. If you're in the Northern VA area and want to > see the van, let me know. > > Cheers - > > ed
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