I don't know about that.  What did it cost Toyota to design their new low
cost [to manufacture] 4 cylinder engine?  Anybody know?

Mike

> The Japanese do it without the BMW etc cost. And I have my doubts about
BMW
> engineering...see a few smoking Beemers, and after a few years they really
> show their age. In Germany they aren't regarded as great cars, but as just
> another car.
>