

| Subject: | Re: How long to do a valve job and replace the seats? |
| From: | 1980 VW Westfalia \"Pokey\" |
| Date: | Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:44:36 -0400 |
I guess I am OK then. The engine is strong, compression is at manufacturers specifications; 130, 130, 125, 130. According to Bentley, the requirements for a new engine are 131 PSI and there is a 40 PSI range. Pokey does have a moderate appeitite for oil, but it is more a function of some small leaks rather than "consumption" per se. Thanks, Chris Gronski Toronto, Ontario, '80 Westy "Pokey" '87 Chevrolet Sprint (Ice Racer) '91 Pontiac Firefly Convertible ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rodgers" <inua@hiwaay.net> To: "1980 VW Westfalia \ Pokey\" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 3:55 PM Subject: Re: How long to do a valve job and replace the seats? > Chris, since you have no coolant to worry about, there are three things to be > concerned about on the top end of the engine. Valve stem/guide wear, valve > face/seat errosion, and cylinder/ring/ring lands wear. > > In the aircraft industry, on the average general aviation airplanes that run > flat 4 and 6 cylinder opposed aircooled engine, a differential compression test > is done that will tell if the engine needs a top overhaul...ie, valve job, and > rings. If oil consumption is high, then it's time, no matter what. But if oil > consumption is relatively low or modest a different approach was taken. > > The compression test is done static. The engine is rotated to top dead center on > the compression stroke. This ensures that both valves are closed. The propeller > is held so the incoming air pressure doesn't kick the engine over and hurts > someone. Then compressed air is pumped into the cylinder to a predetermined > pressure. As I recall, it is 100 PSI. There are two gages that are read. The > input pressure, and the pressure that is held by the cylinder. Cylinder pressure > down to 70 psi is OK. At 60 PSI it's time to overhaul the cylinder. If on > examinig the spread of pressures betwen cylinders it is disparate, ie not fairly > uniform, it's time to look at over hauling all cylinders. You don't want an > engine running with uneven pressures all over the place, hard on the engine. > Power would be erratic. > > During the compression tests, aircraft mechanics listen to the engine under > pressure. If a cylinder is going or gone, there will be a characteristic hissing > sound internally. Listen to the exhaust pipe. If it is loud, then exhaust valve > is leaking. If soft,(you can't hear it as good through the induction system) it > is intake valve leaking. If neither, but you can still hear air loss, it's > rings that need replacing. > > Now I'm not sure how one would apply the differential compression test to a flat > VW engine, but a standard compression test would tell a lot. If you turn the > engine over, and the gage won't hold pressure, then your pre-emptive strike > approach to the head maintenance certainly would be appropriate. > > Good luck > > John Rodgers > 88GL Driver > > 1980 VW Westfalia \"Pokey\" wrote: > > > I have 187,000 KM / 115,000 miles on my air-cooled and I'm thinking about > > pro-actively doing a valve job, replacing the valve seats, and replacing the > > valve cover gaskets while I'm at it. How long should this take? Should I > > just wait until 150,000 miles or is it worth doing now? Pokey is going away > > for the winter shortly is it better to wait until spring? > > > > Thanks, > > Chris Gronski > > Toronto, Ontario, > > '80 Westy "Pokey" > > '87 Chevrolet Sprint (Ice Racer) > > '91 Pontiac Firefly Convertible > >
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