

| Subject: | Re: 1990 waterboxer heads - a popular topic.... |
| From: | Donald Baxter |
| Date: | Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:24:33 -0400 |
I went the new engine route--remanufactured from VW, four years ago. After 75,000 miles and reading lots of stories on this list I can say I'm glad I did. It was expensive--around $3600 including the install, but over the long haul I can't help but think it was the cheaper and less troublesome way to go. Good luck. Donald Baxter in Iowa City ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Sachs" <donsachs@TELUS.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 5:31 PM Subject: 1990 waterboxer heads - a popular topic.... > Hi All, > > After 240,000 km (150,000 miles for the metricly challenged :-) ), I have > seen the first coolant drip from one of the heads on my 1990 Westalia. No > other problems, runs great, only drips slightly when cold. I know the worst > is coming. Thought I would get a few opinions as to a reasonable course of > action. My oil consumption is very slight, I change it about every 5,000 - > 6,000 km and use about 1/2 - 3/4 litre between changes. I have heard new > engines aren't much better. So I thought we'd park the van as usual around > Dec. 1 when the snow gets deep on our long driveway and do the job in the > spring just after breakup (of my driveway). The cost of new heads here in > Canada is about $590 each for the AMC ones - plus you gotta buy the gasket > kits. That is just about the same as the US cost if you do the currency > conversion. While I have done mucho auto work in the past I now have two > small children and I could never find the time to do a major project anymore > so I will pay my local - and very trusty - independent VW mechanic for > labour. My options are to: > > 1. Replace just one head - the cheapest, but hey, if you are draining the > cooling system and the heads are the same age, how long 'til the other one > goes...(cost is about $1,100 - $1,200). > 2. Replace both heads and pray that the cylinders and bottom end hold up > for at least another 60,000 km or so (2-3 years for us).... they appear to > be fine now given the good power, oil pressure, and fairly low oil > consumption. (cost is about $1900 or so if no other problems discovered..) > > 3. Bite the bullet and do the whole engine, bottom end and everything and > be relatively trouble free for 5 years or so. I can get a really good > complete rebuilt one for $3,000 plus about $500 labour to re and re. Or my > mechanic says he can completely rebuild mine for about $3,500 also. We are > talking new everything here. He says it is my call and that putting new > heads on my current engine might well get me another 60 - 80,000 km before > the major engine problems set in. Or, he says about 1 in 10 he has tried to > put heads on have the cylinders stuck and screwed up. > > Soooooo, given all the waterboxer owners out there - and all you mechanics > on the list.... I would like to hear the various opinions. I don't know > how lucky I feel, but I am inclined to save cash now and just do both heads > unless I miraculously run into more income over the winter and hope to get > another couple or three years > out of the bottom end. The body and paint are immaculate so I am keeping > the van long-term. How long have your engines gone before a major rebuild > was required? All opinions will be considered! > > thanks, > don
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