John McLean wrote:

>  However,  about 3 weeks ago I hit a deer on Highway 42 while driving my Vanagon and suffered no damage of any kind.  The deer ran out from the shoulder on the left side and I hit it doing about 45.  I think I
> like my Vanagon up where its at too.

John,
I'm with you guys. Looking at the Vanagon v. Volvo pics, it's obvious the Vanagon's victory came largely from it's high stance.
Larry