

| Subject: | Re: should 10W-40 be avoided? |
| From: | David Marshall |
| Date: | Sun, 15 Oct 2000 17:57:15 -0700 |
I think a lot of this comes down to good marketing! I use 20W50 in the summer, 15W40 in spring and fall and 10W40 in the winter. Usually use Castrol or Petro Canada non-synthetic. Two reasons for non-synthetic. Both get dirty at the same rate and synthetic is 3 times or more as expensive. I change my oil on the turn of every season. The VW manual even states the use of 10W40 or 10W30 for temps between -20 and +10 My feelings are use what the manual calls for and stick to a brand name oil, change it every 5000km and use a Mann or Bosch filter. At 03:40 PM 15/10/2000 -0300, Jean-Guy Savoie wrote: >Hi all > >I finally found the reference to 10W-40 not being a good idea : see >http://members.aol.com/johnbmtl/faqoil.html were this is said, amongst other >things: > >"Multi viscosity oils work like this: Polymers are added to a light base >(5W, 10W, 20W), which prevent the oil from thinning as much as it warms >up. At cold temperatures the polymers are coiled up and allow the oil to >flow as their low numbers indicate. As the oil warms up the polymers begin >to unwind into long chains that prevent the oil from thinning as much as >it normally would. The result is that at 100 degrees C the oil has thinned >only as much as the higher viscosity number indicates. Another way of >looking at multi-vis oils is to think of a 20W-50 as a 20 weight oil that >will not thin more than a 50 weight would when hot. > >Multi viscosity oils are one of the great improvements in oils, but they >should be chosen wisely. Always use a multi grade with the narrowest span >of viscosity that is appropriate for the temperatures you are going to >encounter. In the winter base your decision on the lowest temperature you >will encounter, in the summer, the highest temperature you expect. The >polymers can shear and burn forming deposits that can cause ring sticking >and other problems. 10W-40 and 5W-30 require a lot of polymers (synthetics >excluded) to achieve that range. This has caused problems in diesel >engines, but fewer polymers are better for all engines. The wide viscosity >range oils, in general, are more prone to viscosity and thermal breakdown >due to the high polymer content. It is the oil that lubricates, not the >additives. Oils that can do their job with the fewest additives are the >best. > >Very few manufactures recommend 10W-40 any more, and some threaten to void >warranties if it is used. It was not included in this article for that >reason. 20W-50 is the same 30 point spread, but because it starts with a >heavier base it requires less viscosity index improvers (polymers) to do >the job. AMSOIL can formulate their 10W-30 and 15W-40 with no viscosity >index improvers but uses some in the 10W-40 and 5W-30. Mobil 1 uses no >viscosity improvers in their 5W-30, and I assume the new 10W-30. Follow >your manufacturer's recommendations as to which weights are appropriate >for your vehicle." > > >For all those interested > >JGS > > -- David Marshall - Volkswagen Enthusiast - Quesnel, BC, Canada -- -- 78 VW Rabbit, 79 VW Iltis, 80 VW Caddy, 84 VW Westfalia -- -- 85 VW Cabriolet, 87 Audi 5000 Quattro, 88 VW Syncro Double Cab -- -- David's Volkswagen Home Page http://www.volkswagen.org -- -- Fast Forward Autobahn Sport Tuning http://www.fastforward.ca -- -- david@volkswagen.org (pmail) or vanagon@volkswagen.org (list) --
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