

| Subject: | Re: BARCELONA BY BUS |
| From: | James Barker |
| Date: | Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:20:41 -0800 |
I looked to the list about six months ago because I was going to be transferred to Germany and was looking to do the same thing you are. Our goal was to pick up a van and use it for camping. While we did end up camping every weekend, we didn't use a van. Here were the issues that prevented it. 1. You can only rent Euro vans called T4 over here. 2. T4's run about $75/day for a California model. The California is like the Winnie conversion in the U.S. 3. Two of the three rental companies I talked to required the entire rental in advance (one insisted on cash). Since I was going to be here for three months, that came to something like $5000. 4. Campanje (sp?) in the Netherlands was very helpful and I would be able to purchase a van through them, but since I am in southern Germany, driving 8 hours each was to pick up a van didn't seem such a good idea. 5. Since I was going to be in Germany for only three months, I didn't have an apartment and so purchasing a vehicle without Camanje's help would have been difficult. 6. Since I was here on business, I didn't want to get locked into some long term contract. The T4 rental companies wouldn't refund any money if I returned early. So I ended up going to Hertz and getting a midsize Renault called Kangoo which seats five and camped all over Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. The cost of the car was only $25/day. Overall it worked out well. The camping facilities were usually clean and simple. My wife, who isn't the 'roughing it' kind of girl, was happy with the accommodations. BTW: I have an '80 Westy at home. If you're going to be in Europe for more than three months, purchasing a van might work in your favor. I'd also check what it would take to register the van since that varies by country. If you have any questions, just call. -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf Of Clayton Trapp Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:20 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: BARCELONA BY BUS Howdy, I'm new to this list, don't have much of a frame of reference, don't know nuthin', etc. The closest I've ever been to owning a Volkswagen bus is a couple Porsche 914s. BUT! In May my family (wife, four kids, big ole dog) and I are going to run all over Europe, starting in Barcelona. Obviously the 914 won't do, so I'm going to sell it before we go and we're going to buy a VW bus in Barcelona. Which is why it would be nice to know more than I do. We're going to live on the campgrounds of Europe, so we need something camping friendly. My wife says that if we get something with a pop-top we should be able to all sleep inside in case of hurricanes. I kind of lean towards the Vanagon types over the old hippie vans, just because it seems they've got a little more room. Price is going to be a big deal, the difference of a couple hundred bucks will swing us. A lot of the point of a VW van, besides the obvious mystique, is that we figure everyone everywhere (except us) knows how to work on them. I appreciate all thoughts, since you are the experts and I want to make generally good moves. Groove on! Clayton
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