

| Subject: | Re: re hot air for cold nights |
| From: | Karl F. Bloss |
| Date: | Fri, 3 Nov 2000 14:19:57 -0500 |
Bill, All instructions for stuff sold in the US are about 90% warnings including the one telling you not to stuff whatever device up your nose since it could cause asphyxiation. Anyway... I believe it is catalytic, but ALL heaters, catalytic or not, use oxygen. As such they say use in campers requires 6 in^2 of venting space and opening a roof vent (i.e. skylight). Another guy on the pavanagon list tells me that the Buddy puts out so much heat that keeping a window and skylight open should not be a problem. Besides, this thing will generate a considerable amount of condensation...Karl Ploessl pointed out just over 1 lb for every lb of propane burned. Another reason to keep windows open. -Karl > Karl, > I didn't see it mentioned on the packaging but I imagine there are some > cautions in the instructions for the Buddy... > like does it say to keep a window cracked? > and is this thing a catalytic heater??? > > Thanks, > > Bill > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karl F. Bloss" <bloss@ENTER.NET> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 10:38 AM > Subject: Re: re hot air for cold nights > > > > I just picked up a Mr. Heater Portable Buddy unit from Ace Hardware for > $99.99 > > + tax. They had to order it for me, but when I picked it up, I saw they > had > > ordered more for the shelves. > > > > > two settings, 4,000 btu and 9,000 but > > > can hood to 20 lb external tank with propane hose > > > > Yes...I already have a cute 5lb tank that I've been using for the propane > stove > > with a long hose and a fitting that is the same as the disposable tanks. > They > > tell you to leave bulk tanks outside though. I'll have to think about how > to > > do that and route the hose. > > > > > they advertise 6 hr of use with the 1 lb canister but don't say on with > > > setting... but knowing American advertising for what it is I'm sure that > > > would be on 4,000 btu setting so I would guess about 2 or 3 hours on > 9,000 > > > btu setting... > > > > Correct. > > > > > they advertise 110 hours with the 20 lb tank and assuming that is on the > > > 4,000 btu mode that would mean maybe 50 hours on 9,000 btu mode > > > > FWIW, the 4000 BTU mode cranks heat. I can't imagine wanting to run on > high in > > a Westy. > > > > > disadvantage of all these small canister heaters is the number of > canisters > > > you have to buy.... and I guess you throw them away? can they be > recycled??? > > > > JC Ripme sells a gizmo to fill 1 lb tanks from a 20 pounder, but they say > it's > > not for use on disposables. However, nobody I've talked to has ever seen > a 1 > > lb refillable, so I think it's a liability weasel warning and intended for > 1lb > > disposables anyway. > > > > > Could go through 10 canisters in a weekend!!! But the portability of the > > > > Buddy heater is fantastic... just pick it up and move it around like a > brief > > > case. > > > > Precisely...and it's light. Piezo ignition...no batteries, no smell (even > from > > a new unit), and you can buy 1lb tanks anywhere (albeit probably $4.99 at > the > > campground...hit the sale at K-Mart for $1.80). > > > > -Karl > > > > Karl & Kristina Bloss - Trexlertown, PA > > '00 Wannabusser "Julia" > > '87 Westy Weekender "Bev" - 201K Miles > > '85 Westy Camper "Fred" - 39K Miles > > http://www.enter.net/~bloss/vw - vanagon@makarov.com > > US West Trip 2000: http://www.enter.net/~bloss/vwtrek > > PA/NJ/DE/MD area VW bus "group" http://www.enter.net/~bloss/vw/pavanagon > > LINUX - for IQs higher than 98 > > > Karl & Kristina Bloss - Trexlertown, PA '00 Wannabusser "Julia" '87 Westy Weekender "Bev" - 201K Miles '85 Westy Camper "Fred" - 39K Miles http://www.enter.net/~bloss/vw - vanagon@makarov.com US West Trip 2000: http://www.enter.net/~bloss/vwtrek PA/NJ/DE/MD area VW bus "group" http://www.enter.net/~bloss/vw/pavanagon LINUX - for IQs higher than 98
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