Dealing with engines "out of the box" the 2.0L Audi or Golf engine would be
a better choice for both Horsepower and Torque.

ENGINE  HORSE POWER             TORQUE
2.1 WBX 95@4800         117@3200
1.9 TD  75@4200         111@2400-3400
2.0 Audi        115@5400                122@3200

Yes there is a little more torque on the TD @ 2400 RPM than the 2.0L
Gasoline but the 2.0L gasoline engine can be had for about $900 USD
(Campbell Nelson in WA) where the 1.9TD is about three times that price!  It
will take a lot of fill ups at the pump to make the TD pay off.  Recently
there has also been a lot of talk about how harmful Diesel emissions MAY be
as compared to gasoline.  I guess the TDI is not for sale in CA or NY but
the 2.0L gasoline motors are...

Both engines are really good engines, but the gasoline motor is better
suited for the gears and tires that you have install on there now as it is
very close to the wasserboxer in the HP and Torque peaks.

My $0.02 worth anyhow!

David Marshall

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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Duncan Cameron
Sent: November 9, 2000 5:38 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: FW: Why has the list been so quiet lately/ 1.9TD

I would like to do a diesel conversion in my syncro. Torque and economy!
Where do you by a new 1.9 one andwhats the downside. I have been looking at
the TDI, but sort of pricey and possibly complex. Chime in Y'all.
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Karl Mullendore
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 10:17 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Why has the list been so quiet lately?

Well....there's also the 1.9 TD engine, which (with minor modification) can
produce as much HP and torque as the TDi. Only one wire needed to run! These
are available new for $3150.

Karl Mullendore
Westy Ventures
1987 Syncro Westfalia 1.9TD
1985 Transporter singlecab

----- Original Message -----

> I'm there too, but we are, without doubt, the minority, against the
> tide, current, wind ... what haven't ya.  Those TDIs are selling (almost
> complete) for $3200 now.  Can we sub. a 1.6 turbo pump and 1.6 turbo
> injectors, thereby avoid the electrics (poor man's version), and have it
> work?
>
> -Dana-
>