I have both and definitely need both.  They came from Sears and are fine
quality.
One thing about the ramps, mine were too steep an incline and caught the
front spoiler on both our Vanagon and Jetta.  We solved this by creating a
"ramp extension" out of 1"x6" wood.  It's just a ramp to started up the
ramp.

Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: James Creech <jacreech@VISUALLINK.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:03 PM
Subject: jackstands vs. ramps

> What is the consensus on the usefulness of jackstands vs. ramps for
working
> on our Vanagons?  As a novice mechanic I've put off this purchase.  Are
both
> necessary?  I'm thinking brake and other wheel work will often require
> jackstands to allow the wheels to turn freely, but oil changes and other
> underbody work would be perhaps quicker simply to run the van up on ramps.
> Adequate capacity with both types would seem to render safety a
non-factor.
>
> Any sage advice from the pros?  Including brands you've found faithful and
> ones to avoid?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Creech
> 87 Westy GL
>