I don't think is it related to the WBX

Bugatti has a WR12 in one of their cars which is a 550+ hp beast which has a
displacement of 5.6L  This is really two 2.8L VR6 engines fused together.
The W12 that Audi developed for VW is two V6 engines "fused" together - no
doubt sharing the 5V technology too for a nice breathing machine.  Imagine
getting a valve job done on that puppy 12 x 5.... 60 valves!  Puts the ole
16V GTI to shame!

I friend of mine's father is building an airplane with a 12 cylinder radial
engine that came from Russia in the 1980s... not sure the spec on it at all
other than it makes a tonne of power!  I like really BIG engines!

Another friend of mine from the Netherlands immigrated to Canada and went
out and bought a 1970 something 500+ cu-inch V8 to drive around town in...
lots of power - lots of gas.  According to Peter it cost the same amount to
drive the boat in Canada as it did his Golf in the Netherlands and he is
paying less tax.

David Marshall

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-----Original Message-----
From: JKrevnov@aol.com [mailto:JKrevnov@aol.com]
Sent: November 29, 2000 8:11 PM
To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com; vanagon@volkswagen.org
Subject: Re: THE engine (a bastard )

In a message dated 11/29/00 10:29:02 PM, vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG writes:

<< Want the engine for the Vanagon
It�s a W 12 yes a 12 cylinder in the shape of a W ! >>

David,

This W-12 may be from the same gene pool as the WBX, but I think the next
element in the permutation of the flat four would be an X-8.  Sort of like 2
WBX's half-lapped together.  Henry Ford was doing his damnedest to develop
one to power the Model A.  Then there is the experimental 1935 Hoffman X-8
which may have had Ford'$ backing.  Rear-engined (more precisely,
mid-engined), H2O-cooled, X-8 and, if you squint when you look at its
profile, Beetle-like.

Rich