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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Drillock" <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro] Head Lamps

> Bill Davidson wrote:
> >
> > Well don't believe me.... the author of People's Guide to Mexico (forgot
his
> > name) has been going for 30 years and he points out that they do
sometimes
> > drive without headlights on....
>
> Bill, you first said that they did this often but now you cite a source
> who says that they do it sometimes. Which is it? I have sometimes seen
> Mexican cars driven with one or both headlights broken/dim/missing/badly
> aimed. That is not the same as claiming that they often drive around
> with them turned off. It sounds like you mischaracterized that part of
> your source also.
>
> > >
> > > The class of people who commit crimes is the criminal class.
> >
> > Circular argument. Like saying the people who drink water are the
thirsty
> > ones.
>
> True, so what.
>
> >
> > >The only
> > > place I have ever had parts stolen from my VW vans was in Lake Tahoe,
> > > California. That is hardly an area known for poverty and hunger.
> >
> > Mark.... You're a statistic of one.
> >
>
> Yes, so I suppose I was the only crime victim that week. That's not what
> the cops told me though. They said some drug dealers had moved into the
> area and that petty theft had gone way up. They did not have time to
> take a report right then and it was only a couple of rear view mirrors.
>
> > >Drug
> > > and alcohol use is a better predictor of crime than is economic
status,
> > > at least in North America. Mexico is our neighbor and friend.
> >
> > Perhaps. But that doesn't negate my proposition that there is more crime
> > committed by the hungry...
>
> We could debate this one endlessly. I would accept that more food is
> stolen by the hungry. Car parts I would dispute.
>
> >
> > But back to the subject. And the subject was Mexico and the FACT that
things
> > do get ripped off of vehicles... Hey, don't believe me... read any of
the 50
> > or so travel guides... I don't think you'll find any of them
recommending
> > that you leave your van parked on the street in Mexico city....
>
> The original post was about driving through the country of Mexico. It
> was not about where to leave your van parked for a week. In any case, it
> shows ignorance to treat all of Mexico City as a crime infested slum.
> There are parts where the van would be safe for a week and parts where
> it would not be safe for 5 minutes. Same as L.A. or any other big city
> in my experience but with perhaps more areas of the latter.
>
> >
> > >Please
> > > don't be an ugly American.
> >
> > Mark,
> > Your condesention is unwarranted. You have no idea what my beliefs are
about
> > the people of Mexico or the people of any other country for that
matter...
>
> By you numerous remarks I would say that you believe most Mexicans to be
> poor hungry thieves. I believe differently.
>
> >
> > Leave you van on the street in Mexico City for a week... perhaps you can
> > prove my advice to be wrong.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Again, the topic was about driving through a vast and varied country at
> night. You can certainly travel in a van for a week in Mexico without
> experiencing any theft of parts. Leaving it parked unattended for a week
> is another matter and no one suggested it but you.
>
>
> Mark