Well, perhaps I over reacted a little yesterday about the obvious hack of our 
group website.  I am not used to this new wave of "pro-active" internet 
security (ie hack into a site to show people how easy it is before someone 
malicous does it).  Anyway the guy who did it does seem to be a decent 
fellow.  Here is a copy of the correspondence we had from the time I 
initially found the problem to today.  I guess I still have alot to learn 
about the net.  Please read all the way to the end to get the full story.

Subj:   Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool!    
Date:   12/12/2000 5:14:53 PM Eastern Standard Time 
From:   KENWILFY    
To:     hiking@triple2u.com 
    

Dear hacker person, I don't understand why you want to try to hack into a 
non-commerical website that is for enthusiasts. �We aren't selling anything 
and people who use this site are going to be more angry at you than 
impressed. �I mean it is not like the site is fort knox or anything, it is 
just a hobby site with minimal protection. �If you think you are hot stuff 
for hacking a wimpy page then you have another think coming. �I hope you 
enjoy your moment of glory because when 800 plus members of the group start 
hate mailing you on a daily basis for months at a time, you are going to wish 
you were never born. �Oh, did I forget to mention that many of them are also 
hackers as well. �Hope you sleep well at night.

Ken Wilford

Subj:   RE: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool!    
Date:   12/13/2000 3:53:03 AM Eastern Standard Time 
From:� � hiking@triple2u.com
To:� � KENWILFY@aol.com
    
    

dear ken

i will sleep well thank you

but i will fix your site tomorrow, sorry for what i did

and i will be glad if your friend (hacker), teach me how to hack
because i am not hacker iam only testing security

best regards
hiking

Subj:   Re: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool!    
Date:   12/13/2000 8:25:48 AM Eastern Standard Time 
From:   KENWILFY    
To:     hiking@triple2u.com 
    

Listen sorry about the hateful post. �I was angry that the site was down when 
I wanted to view something on it. �I guess you were trying to do us a favor 
by showing us the site is vulnerable. �My suggestion is that you explain this 
in more detail the next time you do something like this. �It could avoid 
mis-understandings.

Thanks, 
Ken Wilford

Subj:   RE: Re: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool!    
Date:   12/13/2000 9:13:11 AM Eastern Standard Time 
From:� � hiking@triple2u.com
To:� � KENWILFY@aol.com
    
    

ken
thank you for understand 
ya i just want showing the site is vulnerable

oh ya pls tell to the admin to patch the hole
get the patch from microsoft
tell to admin 
to get MS00-078 patch

best regards 

hiking

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