

| Subject: | Re: Follow up on hacking incident |
| From: | mike miller |
| Date: | Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:38:35 -0800 |
If he were a true 'good guy' he would have told what could be done, then given the fix first. As a sales technique it not only sounds like 'protection' as in 'protection racket', it is. JMO Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: KENWILFY@AOL.COM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 7:09 AM Subject: Follow up on hacking incident Well, perhaps I over reacted a little yesterday about the obvious hack of our group website. I am not used to this new wave of "pro-active" internet security (ie hack into a site to show people how easy it is before someone malicous does it). Anyway the guy who did it does seem to be a decent fellow. Here is a copy of the correspondence we had from the time I initially found the problem to today. I guess I still have alot to learn about the net. Please read all the way to the end to get the full story. Subj: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool! Date: 12/12/2000 5:14:53 PM Eastern Standard Time From: KENWILFY To: hiking@triple2u.com Dear hacker person, I don't understand why you want to try to hack into a non-commerical website that is for enthusiasts. We aren't selling anything and people who use this site are going to be more angry at you than impressed. I mean it is not like the site is fort knox or anything, it is just a hobby site with minimal protection. If you think you are hot stuff for hacking a wimpy page then you have another think coming. I hope you enjoy your moment of glory because when 800 plus members of the group start hate mailing you on a daily basis for months at a time, you are going to wish you were never born. Oh, did I forget to mention that many of them are also hackers as well. Hope you sleep well at night. Ken Wilford Subj: RE: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool! Date: 12/13/2000 3:53:03 AM Eastern Standard Time From: hiking@triple2u.com To: KENWILFY@aol.com dear ken i will sleep well thank you but i will fix your site tomorrow, sorry for what i did and i will be glad if your friend (hacker), teach me how to hack because i am not hacker iam only testing security best regards hiking Subj: Re: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool! Date: 12/13/2000 8:25:48 AM Eastern Standard Time From: KENWILFY To: hiking@triple2u.com Listen sorry about the hateful post. I was angry that the site was down when I wanted to view something on it. I guess you were trying to do us a favor by showing us the site is vulnerable. My suggestion is that you explain this in more detail the next time you do something like this. It could avoid mis-understandings. Thanks, Ken Wilford Subj: RE: Re: Hacking Vanagon.com is not Cool! Date: 12/13/2000 9:13:11 AM Eastern Standard Time From: hiking@triple2u.com To: KENWILFY@aol.com ken thank you for understand ya i just want showing the site is vulnerable oh ya pls tell to the admin to patch the hole get the patch from microsoft tell to admin to get MS00-078 patch best regards hiking [text/html]
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