I had one many years ago. It was a 411 wagon with automatic trans and gas
heater. They were not a replacement for the fast/square back because they
were more upscale and I believe they had a type four engine. Something that
never quite caught on, like the Quantum. They had EFI and were very roomy
for a car their size. As far as getting one now, they are awfully old for a
daily driver. As far as a collectors item, well a Edesel collector once told
me that if it wasn't popular when it was new, it won't be popular when it's
old!

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey R" <Oxroad@AOL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 2:38 AM
Subject: No Vanagon cont./411 and 412 quest.?

> no vanagon content in this post.
> For those in the know:
>
> What's the deal on the VW 411 and 412 if I have the models right? These
> replaced the squareback and fastback as far as I can remember, but have
many
> survived? Are they or were they decent cars in their day--and are they
usable
> now if one can be found? Are they pricey if one can be found? Are they
worth
> it?
>
> I've seen a few here since relocating to SoCal and my interest is piqued.
> Never saw any back east.
>
> Jeff
> 83.5 Westy
> LA, CA
>