Jim,

    I use a waxed based stuff after pressure washing the underside. I thin
it out slightly with paint thinner to make it penatrate dried out
undercoater, seams and surface rust. I put it on with a applier made for the
purpose that has different wands and nozzels for inside panels and uses air
pressure. The first step is to remove all loose rust and dirt. As far as not
rustproofing yourself is concerned I don't have a answer to that other then
to state that I'm not rusting yet!
    The product I use is RUSFRE and it comes in clear and black. I use the
clear and it's just like the stuff VW uses. I purchase it at a paint and
body supply store. If you can't find it, the address is

3B Products Co.
321 Greensburg Rd.
New Kensington, PA 15068

It comes in one gallon jugs and it's around $20.

Joe.
84 vanagon
91 jetta diesel
995. jetta tdi
and many past old golfs and jettas

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Creech" <jacreech@VISUALLINK.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 12:40 PM
Subject: underbody sealant