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Subject:Re: : Re: Tag an SUV today
From:Frederick M. Wasserstein
Date:Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:36:33 -0600

I agree 100%. I also own a 1984 Suburban Diesel 4x4. Here in Nebraska the
Snow and Ice are incrediable, during a recent storm I had to pull 3 people
out of ditches. I would be very offended if someone tagged my Suburban with
a bumper sticker like that! I am just now rediscovering the joys of Vanagon
ownership, but during the winter I am sticking to my Suburban. I support
your right of free speech, but don't trample on my rights in the process!!!

Fred
1982 Vanagon Westy Diesel "Sammy"
1984 GMC Suburban Diesel "The Beast"
----- Original Message -----
From: "dan nims" <nims@EXCITE.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: : Re: Tag an SUV today

> Well said.  I, for one, am opposed to "tagging" in any manner.  Free
> speech is one thing, vandalism is another.  Yes we should encourage
> conservation of our precious resources and no, we don't need to encourage
> the defacing of private property.  One person's conspicious
> consumption may well be another's livelyhood.  Wanna make a difference?
> Commit random acts of kindness.
>
> Dan Nims
> 86 GL
> Eugene, Oregon
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 20:00:23 -0700, gary2a@TELUSPLANET.NET wrote:
>
> >  >      Want to do something about those 8mpg behemoths?  Here's an
> >  >interesting approach
> >  >
> >
> >  Fuel consumption is one factor, total emissions output is something
else
> to
> >  consider.  I hope nobody is driving a vanagon because they think it is
an
> >  "environmentally friendly" vehicle.  By today's standards (OBD II),
> >  digifant/digijet is very dirty.  Modern vehicles pollute much less than
> >  vehicles of 15 years ago.  The vanagon is probably no worse than any
> other
> >  similar vehicle of its day, but new vehicles have much more tightly
> >  controlled fuel and ignition systems.  I think the new Chev Malibu has
4
> or
> >  5 oxygen sensors.
> >
> >  So - maybe some very large SUVs use more fuel per mile,  the vanagon
puts
> >  out more grams of certain pollutants per mile driven.
> >  Someone correct me if I'm wrong here ..........
> >
> >  Gary Lee
>
>
>
>
>
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