

| Subject: | Re: "Syncronize" a 2 wheeler. (Long) Was T3 syncro production |
| From: | Simon Glen |
| Date: | Sun, 14 Jan 2001 07:16:31 +1000 |
Dear Larry, Thank you very much indeed. I am impressed. I once owned a 1982 air-cooled T3 Caravelle and dreamed about finding a wrecked Syncro and cannibalising it of its Syncro components. Eventually, I sold my 1982 air-cooled (with much regret) and bought a 1992 Wasserboxer Syncro. Then within days I came across an engine-less Syncro wreck for sale! (It is still for sale and, should anyone in Australia want it, contact me.) I now plan on aquiring a good CV, CU or CJ series 2.0 litre Type 4 air-cooled motor to keep in storage for my Syncro for when the current MV series 2.1 litre Wasserboxer eventually gives up which seems a long way off now that I have rebuilt it. Anyway, thank you. I shall keep your "Syncronise" E-mail for future reference. Simon Glen, Toowoomba, Australia 1992 VW T3 Transporter Syncro van 1969 VW 411 Larry Hamm wrote: > Dear Simon, Ben, Mark, Chuck, Bill, Sam, David, et al. > > This is a general post about doing a Syncro conversion. If it does not > answer your questions, please feel free to drop a note and I'll try to > go into greater detail. > > I am only going to address the high points of the conversion, not try to > explain where every wire and hose goes. If you don't have the ability to > work out the details, it may be best to pass on a project like this. I > know many of you could do this better, faster, etc. Please feel free to > post those suggestions that you feel could help another listee complete > his conversion in a better or safer way. > > I did this job with basic hand tools, a floor jack and stands, some 2x4, > 4x6, 6x6, and other assorted lumber to support the vans. Power tools > included a half inch drill, recip saw with metal blade, angle grinder, > and circular saw with metal (cutoff) blade. A welder or access to one is > also handy. > > A Bentley is recommended reading, and be sure to spend some time on your > back under both vehicles checking out the similarities and differences > in construction. > > The vans: > > An '82 Westy diesel, in pretty good shape, with '87 Jetta I4 gas engine. > I decided the buzzy, low powered I4 had to go. With big tires and the > added weight of the Syncro bits, I settled on the Legacy 2.2L engine. > > An '87 Syncro, purchased with the original intent of converting to a > Westy. When I realized the work involved in adding a poptop roof, and > considering that my skills at bodywork leave much to be desired, I > canceled those plans. Unable to sell the van at a price less than what I > paid, I started to explore the possibility of donating the AWD bits to > the Westy. Wish I hadn't sold the trans first! > > The stages: > > 1. While the engine and trans were out of the Westy for the conversion, > I pulled the fuel tank out of the Syncro (engine and trans out of that > one, too). The space above the trans in the Westy appeared too small to > take the tank, but it fits. Removed the hoses and wiring from the tank, > then unhooked the mounting straps. The tank has an extension on the > right side that fits over the frame rail, so when the tank comes out of > the Syncro, the left end drops down first, then the tank is encouraged > to move to the left a bit, and then out. Sounds easier than it is. > Reversed the procedure to fit it into the Westy. Mount straps had to be > fitted, and great care was used when levering the tank into place that > the brake lines weren't disturbed. I measured the location of the filler > assembly, and cut out a hole in the body sheetmetal to fit the plastic > surround and the filler. The Syncro has a boxlike structure welded in > behind the plastic, and it might have been good to drill out the welds > and use it in the Westy, but I used 1" angle aluminum to build mounts > for the filler spout and plastic surround. I think it's nearly as sturdy > and was easier for me. (No welder in my garage) I used a curved piece of > electrical PVC to provide armor for the filler hose where it exits the > engine compartment into the wheel well, on it's way to the tank. > When this was finished, I stopped to decide whether I wanted to > continue, or just have an extra fuel tank! After a few days rest, I > decided to continue. > The front tank had to go, so I dropped it. I did leave the filler in > place in the hopes of adding a small auxiliary fuel tank in the spare > tire well. There was a small crossmember to the rear of the tank that I > removed, it was the anchor point for the tank straps and would have > interfered with the driveshaft. > > 2. Rear suspension. Piece of cake. Removed old springs and shocks from > Westy and replaced with Syncro springs and OME shocks. > > 3. Front suspension and drive train. All of this lives on a subframe in > the Syncro, so it "relatively" easy to swap. I dropped the driveshaft, > unhooked wires/hoses, removed the wheels, removed the front springs, > removed the spare tire, and unbolted the top control arms. (Refer to > Bentley for details) The steering rack is on it's own crossmember, so > it's hoses were disconnected, along with the rod from the steering > gearbox, and it was dismounted and allowed to rest on the subframe. Two > bolts on each side hold the sway bar to the frame. After removal of > these, the bar also rests on the subframe. The subframe is attached to > the frame in four locations, two on each side. The front mounts were > attached with three bolts each (but there were six holes in the mount > pad). The rear mounts are held by two bolts each, screwed into nutplates > inside the frame. These nutplates were removed by pulling out from the > front after the bolts were out. The subframe is very robust, and with > the weight of the rack, swaybar, diff, axles, hubs, control arms, etc, > it was dropped with the help of the floor jack and lots of lumber. After > the subframe was out, I removed the steering rack crosspiece. Since it > had to be reused in the Westy, I drilled out the spotwelds and removed > it intact. > > The Westy needed a bit of work in preparation to receive the Syncro > subframe. After removing the wheels and disconnecting the brake hoses, > the springs were removed, along with the upper and lower control arms, > radius rod, knuckle, etc., as a unit. The spare tire and all the > mounting bits would have had to be removed, but my spare lives on the > rear bumper, so I saved a bit of work there. > Now I stood at the "point of no return". There are cross pieces that > need to be removed to fit the Syncro parts, and once gone, could be > tough to replace. (Well, OK, you welder types would have little > problem.) > First to get cut was the U-channel piece that provides the mount points > for the lower control arm. I cut a big chunk out of the middle, cutting > just inboard of the control arm mounts holes. Later I discovered the the > front mount holes had to go, too. The steering rack crosspiece, being > different than the Syncro's, was removed, leaving about four or five > inches on each end. The front crosspiece is the one that provides the > anchor points for the radius rods, and it was a bit tougher to remove. I > started with the cutoff blade in the circular saw, and made cuts flush > with the bottom of the frame on the outer ends of this piece. The inner > sides of the frame were too tight for the circular, so I used the recip > saw to make the final cuts, removing the last barrier on the Westy. You > torch guys could probably do it easier and faster, but the saws leave a > nice, clean surface. > > Then it was time to put it all back together. The steering rack mount > was installed on the Westy with bolts, attaching it to the stubs of the > old rack mounts. Welds will be added later to assure it's permanence, a > good thing to have in a steering rack mount! > When I first started checking out this project, I was concerned about > locating the subframe in the exact position it was in on the Syncro. > Luckily, the boys in Graz used existing holes in the Vanagon frame to > position the rear subframe mounts, so I just used the same holes and the > subframe is dead on. The rear nutplates had to be skinnied into the > frame from a wider hole further to the rear, but that wasn't a serious > challenge. In the front, I attached the mount pads with five bolts, > instead of the three used in the Syncro. The Syncro had a second piece > of sheetmetal at this spot on the bottom surface of the frame, and when > my welder guy is commissioned, I'll have him add one also. Then it was > just a reversal of the removal of parts from the Syncro. I took the > opportunity to replace the front axles, wheel bearings, calipers, pads, > and shocks (OME's). I probably should have done ball joints and control > arm bushings while I was in there, but mine were in good shape, and my > wallet wasn't! > > There are other minor items to deal with. The speedo has to be traded, > the fuel tank sender wires extended to reach the rear tank, difflock > control panel added and plumbed, etc., but as I said, anyone tackling > this conversion should be able to work out most of this stuff. > > 4. Meanwhile, back in the engine bay... > The Suby engine was installed using KEP's Syncro engine mount. Anyone > converting a standard WBX van would need to get a Syncro mount or > otherwise drop the engine down to the proper position. The Syncro > skidrails look to be, umm, less than adequate for the job, so as soon as > I get my shortened oilpan from KEP, I'll be putting in new > rails/skidplate made from heavier stock. I am currently using a stock > trans, mounted in the Syncro position, until I can find another good > trans. (Cheap, since I'm now overbudget on this project!) One last > problem to overcome is the crossmember that takes the trans mounts. I'm > not sure about later bodies, but my '82 has a large hole built into the > crossmember, evidently for the heater duct for aircooled engines. Again, > my welder guy will need to modify that to provide for the new trans > mounts. The Syncro crossmember was flat all the way across, and later > bodies may be, too. > > So, there it is. As I said, just the high points. If you are seriously > going to tackle this, I'll help where I can. I've tried to cover all the > salient points, but I may have left out something somewhere. Just ask if > you have any intention of doing this one. > > Since the "accident" my mind may not be up to par, so please forgive any > major omissions. You see, there is one particularly sharp projection on > the subframe, and in an effort to get a better look at what I was doing, > I hit my forehead against that projection. Sharp, stabbing pain, and I > reflexively jerked by head back, slamming the back of it onto the > concrete floor. Seeing stars, I jerked my head up, only to hit my > forehead again on the subframe! This cycle continued until I lost > consciousness. My wife found me later and pulled my out from under the > van by my ankles and provided first aid. (OK, I started this on Friday!) > > Larry Hamm (I own this name, all rights reserved!)
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