

| Subject: | Re: O2 Sensor |
| From: | Mark Keller |
| Date: | Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:09:40 -0700 |
For us as owners to look at a closed loop O2 sensor reading and then believe we have "checked" the operation fuel injection system including of the AFM spring tension or wiper arm is not valid. This is the point I'm trying to make. We must check the system open loop first.. If you test your system open loop first and have a target value of say .5-.6 volts, then go closed loop and drive the vehicle you will have duplicated my experiment, and then we can see if the closed loop cycle behaves as expected. Sincerely, Mark Keller 91 Carat Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:50:22 -0500 From: David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> Subject: Re: O2 Sensor voltage At 11:44 AM 2/5/2001, Mark Keller wrote: >As to the notion that the ECU adds fuel pulse until the other trigger >point is reached, I don't believe this is the case. Darrel would >probably be a better source when he returns. In my observations it >appears that the ECU has a sampling interval. In other words when a >trigger point is reach, an injector pulse adjustment is made and then an >interval before another adjustment is made. Ok, I just looked at the FI book (which says one adjustment cycle per 1-2 seconds at idle, several per second at speed) and then went out (in a snowstorm, I must be crazy!) to put a scope on it. Results were variable timing at idle but usually about 1.5 seconds/cycle (going rich -- going lean -- going rich again) , and about four to six cycles per second at 3000+ rpm. Voltage extremes were about 0.2 and 0.8 volts, hooked to a scope with 10Mohm/13pf impedance and grounding to the common point on the left head. At idle speeds the transitions took an appreciable fraction of the cycle; at high speed the waveform was pretty square and with roughly equal duty cycle. This is a 1.9l (sensor in the collector pipe) with a Bosch Vanagon-specific one-wire sensor with probably 15,000 miles on it. I didn't try to correlate injector timing with lambda sensor readings, too much snow dropping down my neck!
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