

| Subject: | Re: '87 w/ surging idle |
| From: | chad knutson |
| Date: | Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:45:13 -0600 |
Ed: I have had the exact same problem you describe in my '87 Wolfy for the past two months. Less than a week ago I joined this mailing list, and after consulting my Bentley and asking the advice of this group, I took five minutes this morning before leaving for work to fix the problem. Maybe it's not a long-term fix if you live where it's cold, but it should be fine for the warm months: I removed the idle stablization unit. It's behind (in front of, depending on how you look at it) the right rear taillight. After doing so, I started my bus, kept my foot on the pedal for just a minute until it warmed up, and then let her idle peacefully away at a smooth 1100 rpms. As I understand it, the idle stabilizer keep the idle up while the engine is cold. Good think it's getting warm out . . . Chad Knutson Minneapolis Ed Carroll wrote: > I'm very glad to have found this resource, and I hope someone on the > list can help. > > I'm a new owner of an '87 Westy 1/2 camper. PO claims engine is > factory new 40K miles ago, but I'm fairly sure, based on appearances, > that the manifolds and injection system are older, perhaps original. > I've put less than 1,000 miles on it since I bought it, and have done > little work on it, as it's been too snotty out to explore it. > > Just recently it began idling way too high as it warms up, building > to probably close to 3,000 RPM over 5-10 minutes from a cold start. > Starts just fine, but as the idle speed builds you can't knock it > back down again with a kick to the accelerator. Sometimes I can pull > up at a light and it will be idling near normal, but will increase as > I sit there. Fortunately, it's a short commute. When it's had time to > come to full operating temperature, which is not every morning this > time of year, the idle has occasionally surged up and down by itself, > up to 3,000 (or so), then falling back to 1,000 or so, then swinging > up again. I don't think that's right, eh? > > Bought the Bentley manual, which offers great detail but little of > the working principles of the injection system. (Digifant, if I'm > reading it right.) But because there is an "idle stabilization valve" > and corresponding control unit, it seems appropriate to start there. > > So, the questions: > 1) has anyone had similar experiences, and how did the troubleshooting go? > > 2) can anyone explain in 100 words or less what the idle > stabilization valve does? Other Bosch injected vehicles I've had > didn't have one (that I'm aware of.) > > 3) Should I also buy a Haynes manual for a better description of the > injection system, or is there another that addresses it better. I'd > especially like some kind of troubleshooting flow chart to organize > my thinking around. > > 4) Should I become immediately familiar with the best VW mechanic I can find?
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