> Still, the ultimate reason for our work on our Vanagons may be to get those
> "h$#@ w#@ p&^%$" when it works well.

Heck yea. As a single guy (with kids) I know that my vanagon is a
serious babe magnet. When I go grocery shopping, or to buy shoes for the
kids, they are all over me,! When cruising the main drag on friday
nights, you should see the line of cars behind me. 'Specially on the
hills........ :)

John