I read the post to say that the debris was on the outside  of the radiator,
but pretty well impregnated into the "nooks and crannies".

Karl Wolz

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <jhrodgers@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: kaibab trip report + cooling issues

> If I had that kind of mud and debris in my cooling system, and knew I
> would have the hot tempertures and a fair amount of mountain climbing, I
> think I would change the water pump. The impellers can't be in the best
> of shape.
>
> Good Luck\
>
> John Rodgers
> 88 GL Driver
>
>
> bret wrote:
> >
> > I took my two oldest children (6 and 9 yr) on a overnight trip yesterday
> > from St. George, Utah to the Kaibab Plateau (North Rim of the Grand
> > Canyon).  This was to serve as a shakedown trip, of sorts, for my
recently
> > acquired 1982 diesel Westfalia.  I was curious to see how it would deal
> > with the full-on heat of the summer here in this climate.  When we left
> > St. George (elevation 2700 feet) it was over 100 deg F.  As we began to
> > climb the Hurricane Fault, about a 1000 foot elevation transition, it
> > became apparent that I would need to watch the heat gauge.  The LED
began
> > flashing.  I was able to (mostly) keep the flashing off by turning the
> > cabin heat on full bore.  In this heat it really didn't seem to make
much
> > of a difference, comfort wise, anyway.  We continued to have trouble the
> > entire climb.
> >
> > With many stops we finally made it to Jacob's Lake on the
> > Kaibab at an elevation of about 8000 feet.  The air was sweetly cool at
> > this elevation.  Slow deliberate travel in the hot house diesel
Westfalia
> > made the arrival in the cool pine forest more of a treat than past trips
I
> > have made there in a shiny new air conditioned Honda at 80 mph.  It felt
> > like we had earned the destination!  We stayed at a US Forest Service
> > campground.  It cooled to the 50s (deg F) that evening and was perfect
> > sleeping temperature.  The stars were bright and the evening meal
> > delicious.
> >
> > We drove straight back home the next morning.  Naturally I was
interested
> > in solving the cooling issue.  This afternoon I looked around on the web
> > and decided I should make sure my cooling system was purged of air.  I
> > warmed up the van and pulled off the grill.  I thought while I was at
it,
> > I would rinse off the radiator.  I took a nozzle to the radiator and
found
> > that not only bugs were rinsing out, but lots and lots of mud, sand and
> > twigs.  I rinsed for at least 1/2 hour before the water ran clear.  I
> > should mention here that I had found this kind of debris packed
underneath
> > the chassis earlier.  It never occurred to me that it would also be in
the
> > radiator.  My current theory is that the van was in a flash flood when
it
> > belonged to a previous owner who lived in Springdale, Utah (next to Zion
> > National Park).
> >
> > I was able to purge a small amount of air from the system.  With that
and
> > the removal of the mud, I am hoping the cooling system will perform
better
> > the next trip.
> >
> > -bret