

| Subject: | Re: Waterboxer Power vs transplants |
| From: | Robert Keezer |
| Date: | Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:07:37 EDT |
> > "The inline 4 seem like a good choice for a basic Vanagon. It's more > > advanced with knock control, I don't known about the weight, with an > > iron block, my guess is that it's about the same or marginally the > > heaviest among the choices. The power is the same as an unmodified > > waterboxer. Personally I'd avoid this engine in a Westy if converting. > > Why pay the price and not get any more performance. And extra weight, > > would actually mean less performance. The Subaru seems best for a West, > > less hoses and such, less weight, and at least the same power as a > > corrected waterboxer." > > There is more to the inline fours I would like to point out: > > The 93-later Golf-Jetta 2.0 is 115 hp @5,400 rpm, and 136 ft lb. of torque > at 3,200 rpm. > > This really works well in my 82 vanagon Westfalia, manual trans, compared > to > the inline four 1.8 I replaced with this. (100 hp , 109 ft lb torque) > > The engine management system is G-J Digifant ll, and it works reasonably > well. It is fairly simple to troubleshoot, and simpler to install than some > other systems. > > The weight is about the same as a WBX, when you consider that the I-4 > doesn't > have all the peripheral tin & tubing that a WBX has and furthermore, it is > the same weight as the Vanagon Diesel, or the SA I-4, both cast iron > blocks, > so it is within the original design standards. > > Inline fours are higher revving than the WBX, therefore it has greater > acceleration than the WBX. > I would love to prove this to anyone by offering a test drive. I have > driven > both the 1.9 and the 2.1-115 HP is the reason I can out accelerate a WBX > Vanagon. > > Some listmembers are planning to do a conversion like mine after going for > a > test > ride in mine recently, or trying to catch me on a mountain pass. > > It is a stock engine, and I have ridden in a Vanagon that a friend has > installed a 95 Jetta engine with the stock Motronic system-no standard WBX > can touch Ralf's Vanagon!(formerly Diesel) > > Mine will do 75 mph in third gear @5,250 rpm. I have ridden in a Westfalia > with a Corrado G60 engine that will do 75 in second! > > Certain I-4 engines and mods made to them, can dramatically increase the > HP/torque ratios. > > > The WBX does still have better torque at lower rpm, but not any longer for > those of us who can find them. > > The new 2001 Golf-Jetta 1.8 turbo-150 HP and close to that number is torque > @1950 rpm! How is that for low-end torque? > Maybe in two to five years we will have a junkyard supply of these. > > I have to agree that the Diesel version conversion has more hoses. But > these > do not present any sort of problem. > > I have worked on the WBX, and the diesel/gas I-4, and the latter is > definitely more accessible with less junk in the way. It is even easier to > get to things than in a Golf/jetta. > > > The 93 and later I-4 engines have another great feature to enhance > longevity > and HP-oil spray nozzles that cool the pistons. > > This was one of the main reasons diesel truck engines were able to get > bigger > without burning up. > > The 2.0 should be able to outlast the 1.8 I-4 in a vanagon. > > Of course, they don't blow head gaskets, have eliminated old-fashioned > pushrods. > > You can get adapter kits for the WBX Vanagon just like for the Subaru, and > you can keep it all VW. > > Or, you can aquire a Diesel vanagon or its parts to make your own kit. Or > of > course, the Tiico, which has even more hp(118). > > It will cost more, but take less time. My first conversion took three > months, > every day after work. it only cost 1,500. > > Robert Keezer > 1982 Westfalia 2.0 Golf lll "Warmerwagen" > Seattle > > > > > > > > > > [text/html]
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